codes after clutch instal

[pieperz06]

well i just put on my Mcleod RST and my car is running bad like 10% of the time i am driving it.

i got

p0113 ita sen 1

p2196 b1 s1 02 rich

p2198 b2 s1 02 rich

no i don't know what is going on i have checked and rechecked every thing.


it is weird tho because before the install i had a check engine light but it was because the o2's were "slow to respond" but and im just confused about what to do next.

i was thinking i should clean the MAF

switch the o2's sides

and then im blank

o yah i want to add my car has been sitting for like a week in a garage could that have hurt any thing. the intake manifold and tranny were off it the whole time.

one more thing i cant clear the codes because my tuner is in corpus and i am in houston. do yall think it owuld be safe to drive the 200 miles back to CC

any ideas on what to do.

 

[RRRoamer]

Check your O2 sensor wiring harness and the sensor cables themselves. It sounds like you pinched the harness while reinstalling the tranny and damaged some wiring. If you are lucky, you damaged the wires ON the O2 sensors and not the engine harness. A quick test would be a new pair of O2 sensors.

Even if they don't fix the problem, you will need new sensors eventually (mine appear to be going at 60k miles based on the slow drop in fuel economy I have been seeing for the last 3 or 4 months), so you will have spares for when the time does come.

 

[pieperz06]

Check your O2 sensor wiring harness and the sensor cables themselves. It sounds like you pinched the harness while reinstalling the tranny and damaged some wiring. If you are lucky, you damaged the wires ON the O2 sensors and not the engine harness. A quick test would be a new pair of O2 sensors.

Even if they don't fix the problem, you will need new sensors eventually (mine appear to be going at 60k miles based on the slow drop in fuel economy I have been seeing for the last 3 or 4 months), so you will have spares for when the time does come.

The car has started running a little better so I'm not sure what's up with that but I will check on that stuff when I get home.

What's a rough price on a set of o2's?

 

[J.Cagle]

Just curious. My car has started to lose mpg as well. Went from averaging 21mpg, and now Im down to 17 on a good day. Think o2's may help mine? I thought about getting an offroad midpipe. Wouldnt a tune for that turn off the o2 sensors so it wouldnt even matter if they were bad or not?

 

[ArtQ]

Make sure you didn't swap the O2 connecters left to right during the install

 

[RRRoamer]

Just curious. My car has started to lose mpg as well. Went from averaging 21mpg, and now Im down to 17 on a good day. Think o2's may help mine? I thought about getting an offroad midpipe. Wouldnt a tune for that turn off the o2 sensors so it wouldnt even matter if they were bad or not?

The tunes can only turn off the REAR O2 sensors. The rear sensors only function in life is to monitor the performance of the catalytic converter. That ONLY effects emissions and doesn't affect your engines performance one way or the other, so turning them off doesn't affect anything other than the PCM's ability to monitor it's emissions performance.

The front sensors are a different matter all together. The PCM uses data from them to fine tune the A/F during part throttle times (aka: 99.9% of the time) to keep it right at 14.7:1. When the sensors start to go, they don't respond quickly enough and PCM usually ends up richening things up more than it should be. Too much fuel at part throttle means means a reduction in fuel economy.

Eventually, the fuel trim will get out far enough or the O2 sensor response speed will get slow enough that it will throw a code. But usually, the first sign is a slow decrease in fuel economy.

 

[RRRoamer]

The car has started running a little better so I'm not sure what's up with that but I will check on that stuff when I get home.

What's a rough price on a set of o2's?

I did a small amount of looking today. Autozone Napa, etc has them for about $50 each for Bosch sensors. It looks like the list price of the factory sensors is $70. Not sure what you can actually get them for, but it shouldn't be more than $70.

 

[J.Cagle]

I did a small amount of looking today. Autozone Napa, etc has them for about $50 each for Bosch sensors. It looks like the list price of the factory sensors is $70. Not sure what you can actually get them for, but it shouldn't be more than $70.

Are aftermarket o2's ok, or is it best to go with factory?

 

[lito]

Are aftermarket o2's ok, or is it best to go with factory?

OEM, they are NTK not bosch.

 

[slow06stang]

I would stick with oem 02s. I have used others and they do not last long at all, or atleast in my car they did not

 

[RRRoamer]

OEM, they are NTK not bosch.

Thanks for the heads up on the OEM brand.

 

[pieperz06]

well after much work by my self to figure out why my car was running like shit i took it to a shop and got some answers. and the verdict it that i had the o2 sensor wires switched up which was an easy fix for the guys at the shop. i dont know how i missed that but o well notw i will be getting a dyno tune from them so at least i get some thing out of the whole thing

 

[ArtQ]

Make sure you didn't swap the O2 connecters left to right during the install

 

[RRRoamer]

No horn tooting allowed, Rench!!!

 

[pieperz06]

Lol yah yah