And we explained why that is in detail in many posts on many boards already, plus its no secret our dyno reads low. Even Chris Johnson of SCT has publicly stated so. He has brought cars to us that read lower on our dyno than his. That is just dyno variance.
Read low? Seriously? 330 RWHP It didn't read low for your ending numbers now did it?
Different dyno's at different locations, different cars, etc will dyno differently. Even you cant deny that. You going to say Livernois's 430 horsepower to the wheels with just a Steeda cold air and tune is bogus too? No other car has done that either. But it wouldnt be convenient for you to admit thats just dyno variance, which is what it really is.
This is the only car ever to pull 391 stock and I mentioned it in my post. I don't dispute the numbers from Livernois, just that's it a freak car like your 330 car.
Our test and theirs was done back to back like it should be. Theirs was actually done with 93 octane to eliminate that variable. We also didnt vary coolant temperatures to see what that would do. Ours were done straight up at 200 degrees.
That should be a 93/93 dyno. Different cars, different days. You know the drill.
Chris Johnson has dyno'd our intake on SCT's own company car and got 11hp over tune/stock airbox alone. That car is the one they use for their own 28hp gain claims. Livernois also tested the stock box vs our cold air and saw around 10hp. Brenspeed I believe saw 11 or 12.
Sct Performance Stock 2011 Mustang, Manual Trans, 3.31 Gear = 368rwhp
SCT Value File Tune + Stock 2011 Mustang = 384rwhp
Steeda Cold Air Intake + SCT Value File Tune + Stock 2011 Mustang = 392rwhp
From SCT's facebook test and results. That's a normal looking base line and ending number and my math says it's a 8 RWHP gain, not 11. That's a 24 RWHP gain, right on par with all the rest of the results from Bama, VMP, C&L and others have posted.
We've got "independent" test showing 7 tenths before and after. That even blows away the 1/2 second we got in our own testing. Results like that must be bogus too though.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/2005...volution-performance-tune-w-steeda-cai-2.html
Good job for him, he learned how to drive better on his new car in a couple weeks. I'm not disputing the kit works, just not 70 HP worth. .10 = about 10 HP right? So are you claiming this guy gained the equivilant of 70 HP?
He gained what we would expect over the stock airbox, as confirmed by Livernois, Brenspeed, SCT as i mentioned earlier and others I have not mentioned which leads me to question the tuning. You of all people know every car is different. Consistency is an exception, not the rule when you are dealing with different cars on different days at different dynos. I feel its likely that is the case here but no way to know for sure.
Agreed, all cars are different as well as dynos, but not 30 HP different. Stock 87 cars do not dyno 330, sorry I don't buy it and neither did many more in your thread here and other sites
Back at you. You went ahead and picked a couple of odd cars yourself just for your own benefit.
Tucker, you have a good product and I am glad you are in the market, but we do take exception to your comments on bogus claims out there. By including examples like SCT's claims, not just our own and explaning the methods behind how they were arrived at and why those methods were chosen I simply intended to clarify that the claims being made aren't bogus. I wanted people reading this thread to understand how claims are being made by different manufacturers so they could understand why some claims are higher than others, which would lead them to a better understanding of what they can expect for themselves.
