Its ok bro, just I know whipple has caught some crap in 3 threads, this being his fourth try I was just trying to keep it clean, I would say offer the man a price your willing to pay shipped to your address, if he doesnt take it let him shoot you back an offer.. but as far as negotiating for you I cant. But I think you can get a good deal outta him... good luck to you both...10-4, Dale. I wasn't aware of the differences and never got a chance to ask in the previous two threads. I wasn't attempting to be hostile, just my lame attempt at negotiating. Maybe you could negotiate a deal on my behalf?