2011 5.0L Clutch Pedal Issue Fix

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cool first time it sticks its gone...lol..hopfully the brake light issue wont be a problem..im going to be getting some stuff in a few weeks, may just add that to the list

I posted this earlier, but the switches are the same, I just think that our switch somehow went bad, I don't know exactly. When the "bad" switch is plugged in, the lights stay on, but if I squeeze the plunger, it turns the lights off like it should. It's too bad that these are not like the older cars where you can adjust this switch in and out because that would fix the problem without having to spend money.
 

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I posted this earlier, but the switches are the same, I just think that our switch somehow went bad, I don't know exactly. When the "bad" switch is plugged in, the lights stay on, but if I squeeze the plunger, it turns the lights off like it should. It's too bad that these are not like the older cars where you can adjust this switch in and out because that would fix the problem without having to spend money.

Those switches should be adjustable. Like the door open sensors in the older Mustangs or the clutch position switch on the '05-10. When you install them for the first time and push the brake the switch housing "adjusts" to where it needs to be.

You should be able to reset, or reposition it back. I'd have to physically look at one to tell you how, but I had to do that to the clutch position switch on my '05. I'll see if I've got one in stock I can look at and see how it works.
 

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Those switches should be adjustable. Like the door open sensors in the older Mustangs or the clutch position switch on the '05-10. When you install them for the first time and push the brake the switch housing "adjusts" to where it needs to be.

You should be able to reset, or reposition it back. I'd have to physically look at one to tell you how, but I had to do that to the clutch position switch on my '05. I'll see if I've got one in stock I can look at and see how it works.

You are 100% right, I just got it now. In the picture below, the black tabs are the adjustment "ears" and they will most likely be located right under the blue tabs as shown. All you have to do is take a small screw driver or something and rotate the black ears counter clockwise and it will reset the adjustment of the switch. After you reinstall the switch, pull up on the brake pedal and you are done.

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Sweet. Glad I could help. And judging by that Motorcraft box, it looks like you already got your new one.
 
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I just experience the clutch problem this morning. Pedal binding about 2 inches off the floor on higher-rpm downshifts.

My pedal is also releasing really close to the floor. Almost feels like it's making the car move when you rev the car in gear with the clutch depressed. You've got to push the clutch completely to the floor to make a shift. Anybody experience this?
 

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I just experience the clutch problem this morning. Pedal binding about 2 inches off the floor on higher-rpm downshifts.

My pedal is also releasing really close to the floor. Almost feels like it's making the car move when you rev the car in gear with the clutch depressed. You've got to push the clutch completely to the floor to make a shift. Anybody experience this?

ive tried to get mine to act up.. but it hasnt done it yet.. im probably doing it wrong.. how EXACTLY does this happen? like what are you doing for the spring to rotate the other way, and force the pedal to the floor?? i watched the video that was posted, and i think im just doing it wrong.. or hey MAYBE mine just wont do it.. lol
 

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I just experience the clutch problem this morning. Pedal binding about 2 inches off the floor on higher-rpm downshifts.

My pedal is also releasing really close to the floor. Almost feels like it's making the car move when you rev the car in gear with the clutch depressed. You've got to push the clutch completely to the floor to make a shift. Anybody experience this?

Mines the exact same way...

Clutch is super light at the top, and gets much stiffer about half way down. Clutch engagement is right at the bottom. ITs hard to shift at high rpm now.

Called my dealer, I have an appointment on monday


Please PM me if you figure out the cause of this...
 
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This is really interesting to me. the car I test drove seemed to have the sluggish pedal response problem--the car I got has a pedal that springs right the $&*% back into place.

I guarran-damn-tee ya they swapped my pedal assy's before I got it. they kept having "delays" telling me when I could pick up the car. I live south of Houston and got it from a high high volume dealer ( Ron Carter )
 

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For those that have been following the progress of our car you know that we experienced a similar issue that others have seen where the clutch pedal sticks to the floor after high rpm shifts. We only experienced this once the stock rev limiter was raised and we started shifting the car at 7000+rpm's. What happened was during the 1-2 as we as the 2nd-3rd gear shift the clutch pedal seemed to want to stay at the floor preventing the clutch from re-engaging. Definitely not a good thing for drag racing. Shifting the car itself wasn't the issue as the transmission is smooth as can be and the shifter is really easy to use but again it was the issue of the clutch pedal sticking to the floor keeping the clutch from re-engaging.


After speaking to a few others that had experienced the same thing we finally started hearing what the issue was. Supposedly it was the clutch box pedal assembly. A TSB to this date has not been made for it but there was a control number issued. The word was that the clutch box pedal assembly needed to be replaced with one from a GT500. We obtained the part number from our friends at Lamotta Performance (Thanks Jake!!) and ordered one up.

As we waited for the assembly to show up we put a Mcleod RXT twin disc clutch kit in the car compliments of our good friends at Mcleod. After the install which went great the clutch pedal seemed even lighter than stock. However I believe that the installation of the clutch made it easier to feel the problem in the stock clutch pedal assembly. The best way to describe it was that the clutch pedal just felt lazy coming back off the floor. It was weird though as it seemed there was a point just a few inches off the floor that it was binding and then it would finally spring back. I knew this wasn't the clutch and it really became apparent that there was definitely an issue with the pedal assembly. At this point we had not received the replacement pedal assembly so I started thinking of another fix. If we were to use a pedal stop to prevent the pedal from passing the point to where it was binding when pressed in it would eliminate the bind in the pedal when the clutch was depressed. Just as we were speaking about this in the office guess what? The new clutch pedal assembly arrived.

So we had Derek go right to work on the car and pulled the stock pedal assembly out to compare to the one off of the GT500. Here's a few pictures with a few notes which should hopefully help others to see what's going on.

GT500 assembly is on the Left. Stock 2011 GT assembly is on the right.
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Stock 2011 GT assembly- Take a look at the spring mechanism. It's a completely new design than the GT500 has. The rebound spring is separate from the main pivot shaft that the clutch and brake pedal work off of.
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Stock GT500 assembly-Now take a close look at the way the spring is used on main shaft in this assembly where both the clutch and brake pedals pivot on. Even outside of the car when you press in the clutch pedal on the GT500 assembly the clutch is smooth all the way in and released smooth all the way out. What happens on the 2011 GT assembly is after it's pressed in and starts being released you can feel a bind in the pedal as it tries to pivot with the new spring setup. It seems to be the spring itself but also how it pivots in it's new location. After installing the new GT500 assembly in the car you can press the clutch in and let go of it and it springs right back. There's no binding at all and doesn't feel lazy to come back off of the floor. At this point we're pretty confident that the pedal issue is fixed. The clutch pedal now feels just as smooth as it did on our 2010 GT500 which felt awesome. We'll be taking the car to the track on Friday just to be sure but from what we can see it looks like the 2011 clutch box pedal assembly has some issues that definitely caused problems us shifting in the higher rpm's.

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Hope that helps some of the guys out there that experienced the same thing we did.

Jared

is the clutch pedal issue just the clutch pedal assembly or the clutch it self is giving problems too???
 

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It's both,and the revised clutch isn't the fix either. Someone already installed the revised clutch from Ford and they are still having the same issue even with the newer pedal assembly with no vertical spring. The fix for the moment is to install the updated pedal assembly with no vertical spring and an aftermarket clutch assembly like the McLeod RST and RXT.
 

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This good and bad news. But i sure hope Ford fixes is. Some of us with under 400 hp don't really need an expensive aftermarket clutch. I guess time will tell
 

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So 2012 models should have a revised pedal assembly? I'll check the car in a bit but was wondering if someone knew.
 

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So if the clutch pedal sticks to the floor at high RPMs the solution would be to get the GT500 clutch pedal assembly with an aftermarket clutch as the newly designed clutch that was put into cars after 4/25/10 wasn't fixing the issue. And also if your clutch pedal gelt mushy the JPC clutch line wrapped in heat tape is the solution to that fix as well correct?
 

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Update: I just spoke with my dealer and they told me they might have to replace the clutch assembly, not the pedal, under a TSB that's out for this issue. Has anyone else had their entire clutch replaced because of this problem? I'll keep you guys posted.
 

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you might want to ask the dealer if they will install an aftermarket clutch instead of a factory replacement. the factory clutch sucks, and a replacement will do the same thing. you need to purchase an aftermarket one and see if they will install it since they have to replace the clutch anyway.
 
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