5.0 or Blower

[cwhit23]

I know this has been beat to death. And this is a nice post for afm or mm, but I'm posting here because this is where I hang out these days.

My 06: The motor is almost done. Rebuilt it back stock (I spun a bearing a few weeks ago.) It will be done in hopefully about 3 weeks and I'll have it back together. It's a basic bolt on car, 78K.

I've always wanted to supercharge the car, and figure it's a great point to do it. The motor is going to be fresh, new rings, bearings, etc. The motor is out of the car so it's at an easy point to go ahead and get a supercharger, intercooler and have everything put back together at once , dyno tune, and done.

The 06: I love the body style more than the newer ones, but it is an 06. It's got 78k, but the motor is rebuilt so the milage isn't a factor.

The other side of this coin, The motor is out of the car, easy to de-mod put back stock and trade it. I hated the asses of the 10 + cars, but Honestly they've grown on me and I like them. I've yet to test drive a 5.0 but have looked in and around one at a couple stealerships.

The downside to a 5.0 If I bought it, it would entail me selling my truck and trading my 06 to afford it, So basically getting rid of 2 for 1, though I'd try to find a beater before winter. ( when I say that, I mean almost having the 5.0 paid for), but thats how I roll. I don't like to owe a shit ton of money. But that being said as well, I would still owe something on it and afraid I'll end up in the same place wanting a blower for it. Not too mention, owing on it would keep me from doing anything other than axle backs, window tint, and maybe lowering springs and wheels. I'm afraid I'd get bored not being able to keep adding stuff to it.

Again, I know this has been a beat up topic to keep or to trade, but I'm on the fence right now and about 2-3 weeks away from needing to either get a blower since the cars apart and will be going back together or just getting it back together and trading it. I can't make up my mind!

Mainly seeking opinions and suggestions. I know an overwhelming majority will say 5.0 but hopefully the situation I've explained will lend a little more to it. i.e trading 2 for 1 , car already being apart, etc..

I know Ultra is going to say get a 5.0 so thats one I'm already counting. lol

 

[Seer]

I went 11.6 with my 5.0 with just a CAI, tune, drag radials and x pipe... enough said.

It's just a different driving experience vs. the 4.6 3v

 

[swat 79]

That type of power upgrade (going from a 4.6 to a 5.0) should be enough to hold you over, at least until the little you do have to pay off would get paid off. If your s197 was newer, with a little less mileage, I'd say hold onto it, but right now it is so easy to get into a new car, with an extra gear, 100 extra hp, and a better suspension/interior right out of the gate, it would be hard to advise against that.


Go for the 5.0

 

[cm581978]

There are so many variables to determine which path to go down. I'm in the same boat. Financially, I still owe around 8k on my car and I'd rather just hang onto the car and pay that off than get something new and tack on another 10k to my loan.

 

[Swarzkopf]

Depends on your goals. If you just want to cruise and want to go a little faster...the blower kit makes a lot more sense. Pretty easy to break into the 11s with most of the 3V blower kits. If you want a new vehicle with lower mileage, etc then the 11+ makes more sense. If you want more potential for going really fast, the 11+ makes more sense.

 

[Riptide]

Yeah. You'll eventually want to spend the 6-8K to put the supercharger on either car. So just factor that in. You might be held over with boltons long enough to pay the car off but that's it. 400-450whp is obviously not enough to satisfy most people around here or they wouldn't be getting rid of supercharged 3v cars in order to get an 11+.

The rear end on the 11+ has not really grown on me - I think it's hideous. But that's obviously an aesthetics type of thing and thus is unimportant if you feel differently.

Regardless of whatever route you take a 5.0 + a blower is just a 600whp s197. It's nothing that special. You can build other motors to make that kinda power an probably do it cheaper than trading off and buying a brand new car. I know it's been said a million times but playing with boost, which you'll do with either car, can be playing with fire. The 5.0 can blow up just like anything else.

 

[Midnight11]

5.0 /thread

 

[Phuck Phace]

Just go test drive a 5.0 and you will probably buy it.

 

[cwhit23]

I went 11.6 with my 5.0 with just a CAI, tune, drag radials and x pipe... enough said.

It's just a different driving experience vs. the 4.6 3v

Yeah, that's what is sick.. minor things and your already in the 11's. That being in my head is why I haven't yet bought a whipple.

That type of power upgrade (going from a 4.6 to a 5.0) should be enough to hold you over, at least until the little you do have to pay off would get paid off. If your s197 was newer, with a little less mileage, I'd say hold onto it, but right now it is so easy to get into a new car, with an extra gear, 100 extra hp, and a better suspension/interior right out of the gate, it would be hard to advise against that.


Go for the 5.0

Thats what I'm hoping for, that the power upgrade would hold me over for a year or so, while focusing on wheels etc, may fill the "mod" bug a bit.

There are so many variables to determine which path to go down. I'm in the same boat. Financially, I still owe around 8k on my car and I'd rather just hang onto the car and pay that off than get something new and tack on another 10k to my loan.

Yep, thats' just it, A lot of variables on both sides. I don't know if I want to give up my truck, but if I could find a beater to kick around during winter and strong hail producing spring storms I'd feel better about the trade. Not that my truck is a beater, it's a nice truck. but I could live with having a winter truck and a shiny 5.0 in the garage too, but I could also live with a boosted 3v and my truck too.. "First World Problems" Right?? lol

Depends on your goals. If you just want to cruise and want to go a little faster...the blower kit makes a lot more sense. Pretty easy to break into the 11s with most of the 3V blower kits. If you want a new vehicle with lower mileage, etc then the 11+ makes more sense. If you want more potential for going really fast, the 11+ makes more sense.

Right now my mustang has been sidestepped to a weekend warrior, so keeping that in mind the blower does make more sense, from the way you put it. - However, the more potential, and potential right out of the box is overwhelmingly tempting.

Yeah. You'll eventually want to spend the 6-8K to put the supercharger on either car. So just factor that in. You might be held over with boltons long enough to pay the car off but that's it. 400-450whp is obviously not enough to satisfy most people around here or they wouldn't be getting rid of supercharged 3v cars in order to get an 11+.

The rear end on the 11+ has not really grown on me - I think it's hideous. But that's obviously an aesthetics type of thing and thus is unimportant if you feel differently.

Regardless of whatever route you take a 5.0 + a blower is just a 600whp s197. It's nothing that special. You can build other motors to make that kinda power an probably do it cheaper than trading off and buying a brand new car. I know it's been said a million times but playing with boost, which you'll do with either car, can be playing with fire. The 5.0 can blow up just like anything else.

Very well said, It makes sense and thats stuff I need to factor in. Only on the internet do we think a car 450 HP to the wheels is slow..

Just go test drive a 5.0 and you will probably buy it.

This is why I haven't test drove one yet. I'm afraid I'd leave with it.

 

[Riptide]

OP. There are 600+whp built 3v cars going up for sale with less mileage than yours has. For under 25K.

Do you really wanna spend another 15-20,000 to buy a 5.0 and mod it to get to the same point? Are the other improvements in the car really worth that much money to you? You could just sell your current car for 15, spend another 8-10, and be at the same power level of a boosted 5.0. Or put the 8-10 into your own car. These are the sorts of questions you need to be asking yourself before you give in to the "gotta have it" disease.

Oh, and stock bottom end 3v cars have gone 10s btw. Just throwing that out there. lol

 

[kbexperience]

Id keep the truck and the '06.. I'm in the same boat. If I wanted a 5.0 I would have to sell my truck as well. Not gonna happen

 

[HEMI LOL]

There is a reason most of us have jumped ship. The 5.0 is just phenomenal.

 

[iceguyb14]

There is a reason most of us have jumped ship. The 5.0 is just phenomenal.

Yep. Switching from my 2010 to my 2013 was the best move I've made.

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[UltraKla$$ic]

5.0<-----ungodly potential

anything else is throwing money away at this point. The 5.0 is here to stay for awhile.

 

[orangensaft]

I'd keep the 06 and the truck.

I refuse to even look at the 11+. Not because I don't like them they just don't have my color in the GTs.

I love driving my car, with only an intake, a tune and springs, it's still fun for me even with the 3.31s. It'll probably never see a drag strip either I'm more for the twistys so powers not everything to me, and I have a long way to go before it gets boring.

However the day I debate whether to get a new one I will because that's probably the end.

 

[Brezick]

I'd keep the 3v if you like the look. I will not trade mine just for a 5.0. Its fast enough and only can go faster.

 

[GerRod]

I wouldn't trade a 4.6 S197 for a 5.0 S197 at this point. You'll have the new body for less than 2 years. The new redesigned 50th anniversary 2015 platform will be out in 2014 with probably a 475 direct injection 5.0. I'd wait on that bad boy!!!

 

[cwhit23]

^ I'm just afraid it'll be a design fail.

 

[DDTCM]

Sit your ass behind the steering wheel of a 11-13 and you will be done,plain and simple. I would say do what's best for your pocket book and don't put yourself in a bind. You will probably get tired of PB&J and Ramen noodles pretty darn quick,lol.

 

[GerRod]

^ I'm just afraid it'll be a design fail.

No it won't. Look at recent history, Fox, SN95, SN95 New Edge, 05-09 S197, 10 S197, 11-12 S197, 13 S197. It keep getting better!!!