5R55S Reluctant to go into gear

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I’ve searched this and other forums for a couple of days, and haven’t found anything similar. This may be a bit long, but I’m trying to include as much details as I can. I’ve got an ’07 GT, auto, with a JLT intake and a Bama 91 race tune. It’s got 74,000 miles, and maybe a couple of hundred quarter mile passes. Last tranny service was at 30,000 miles. (I know, it’s overdue!)

A few weeks ago, I noticed that in the staging lanes, it took a second or so of cranking to start the car. It was nothing drastic, but usually I would just tap the key and it fired. I told myself that it may be getting to be getting time for a new battery. I ran my two time trials, and noticed that I was maybe a tenth slower than I thought I would be, given the conditions. But times here (5,800 feet) will vary widely with the DA, so I wasn’t too concerned. When I pulled back into the pits after the scond time trial, as I went to back into my space, it hesitated for a second before going into reverse. Again, I wasn’t too concerned, but it had never done that.

After waiting for time trials to finish, and for them to run the other class, I heard the call for my group to go to the staging lanes. I got in the car, fired it up, put it in “D”, and nothing! Tried reverse, no go. The linkage was working, because the car came out of park, and could be pushed, and the reverse lights came on. I tried revving it up, just a little, probably no more than 2000 RPM, and it still wouldn’t go into gear. The RPM didn’t change, at least not perceptively. I was thinking that maybe since the battery was acting up a bit, maybe the PCM was not getting enough voltage, and that could be it. We were also thinking it may be electronic, so we started looking for fuses and relays that might control the tranny, but couldn’t figured it out. I reloaded the stock tune, and tried it. A buddy trailered it home for me.

The next morning, my plan was start it up, try it, check for codes (the O/D light has never flashed in the car), and maybe disconnect the battery for a while. Then, if it still didn’t work, put the stock airbox back on, take it to the dealer, and hope they didn’t look at the aluminum driveshaft and aftermarket LCAs and tell me my extended warranty would not cover this. I started it up, and nothing. I tried to rev it gently like the night before, and nothing. I thought, “what the hell”, and gunned it up to 3500-4000 RPM. BAM! It slammed into gear. I shifted it through gears a couple of times, and drove it around the block. All was well.

I drove it to work the next day, and it was fine. Didn’t seem to be slipping, highway RPM the same as normal, MPG same as always.

The following Friday, I was back at the track. I went through two time trials and two rounds of eliminations. Out of the 4 runs, it did the same thing twice…when backing into the parking space, it would hesitate a second before going into reverse. If it did that, then when I went to drive it again, I would have to gun it up to almost 4000 RPM, and it would slam into gear. After the first time, I thought, well, it could be heat related, so I didn’t do any more burnouts. The second time that it did the hesitation into reverse thing, I immediately shifted it back into “D”, pulled forward a bit, backed back up and pulled forward a couple of times. But after the car had cooled down, and it was time to make my next run, it wouldn’t go into gear until I gunned it.

It has only done this three times, but each time it was after a ¼ mile run. I’ve only driven it twice since then, and it is shifting fine; although it might be my imagination, it felt like I had to give it a little more gas than usual to back up my driveway last time.

Plans are to put it back to stock, and go get the tranny flushed and filled, but the track is now closed for the season, so I won’t even know if that did anything until next spring.

I’m wondering, though, could it just be that my fluid is low? I’ve never noticed any fluid under the car, and the last time I looked at it, the tranny was dry, so I don’t think I lost a bunch out of the vent or anything. Everything I’ve read about failures on the 5R55S’s seems to include slipping, or losing a gear. Once I do get it to go into gear, it shifts fine, and still has no problem barking the tires when you kick it into passing gear from 40 mph or so. I’m stumped.
 
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I'm on my 3 1/2 times rebuilding my trans. I never lost any fluids either, but reverse and the third gears gave me the most problems, well except for the last time it also broke the input shaft and the TC had to get rebuilt also.
If your having any problems with your trans stop racing and get it checked out and get ready to get it rebuilt.

Good luck to you.

This happen the last time to my trans.
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Here's and old video when I was having trans problems.
[SFIRE]Ed-and-Don-racing-Silver_72717[/SFIRE]
 

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Well see, that's just it, I'm not having problems with 3rd, or reverse, or any gear, once I do get it to go into gear. I've just not heard of anything like what I've experienced.

I'm done racing, until April, because the track's closed.
 

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:2cents:

sounds like trans fluid is low.

sounds more like pump pressure is low
 

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Mine did that when the battery voltage was low. Ran the pump and fans for too long between rounds and that's when it happened. Charged the battery and it cleared up.
 

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Cool, that's a relief.

I ordered a battery tender yesterday. I don't want to try reloading the tune if the battery is iffy, and I haven't driven the car in a couple of weeks, so I don't know how much charge is in it.

A couple of times since the incident at the track, I have had to jump the car, but I've also not been driving it until I had time to deal with the tranny. I just recently bought a beater, so this is the first time in the 3 years that I've owned the car that it sat for more than a couple of days. I did take it to Walmart after jumping it, and they tested the battery and told me it's fine.

Once the tender gets here and I get the battery completely charged, I'll put the stock tune back in and airbox on, and go get the tranny serviced, just to be safe. It's time anyway.
 

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I've been so busy post-whoring that I haven't gotten around to updating this. I did end up replacing the battery. Before the track opened this year I took it in and got the tranny fluid changed.

I've been to the track 3 times so far this year, and it's working great. Thanks SD, I think you nailed it. It seems to have been the battery.
 

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