Bama tune 2011+ (moved)

[Sky Render]

You could purchase a new one (expensive) put the new one in and run the tune then if you ever take it to the dealer put the original pcm back in without the tune.
A friend of mine did that with on of his cars and it worked.

I think it was a mopar tho. Maybe their systems and what not are different idk.

I believe Only the dealer can swap the EMS, and they're probably going to ask you why you're bring a second EMS to them to put in your car. Something to do with matching VINs and such.

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[Seer]

I believe Only the dealer can swap the EMS, and they're probably going to ask you why you're bring a second EMS to them to put in your car. Something to do with matching VINs and such.

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If you look on tousley's site, the pcm's are pre tuned with your vehicles strategy code. As there are about 10 different pcm part #'s

 

[shark tales]

If you look on tousley's site, the pcm's are pre tuned with your vehicles strategy code. As there are about 10 different pcm part #'s

so could that be solution? switch plug and play? key reprogramming?

i cant believe no one has previously done this, most others car makes (as you mentioned) do this.

 

[Kingcrabb]

I agree with stkjock. Kingcrabb the more you post, the more credibility you lose. How can you say without a doubt that the tune wasn't the cause of 90+% of the failures? It wasn't just #8 either. Do you have datalogs from cars that failed as conclusive evidence?

Here is something else to think about, why didn't the power adder cars have the same issue? If your theory was correct, we would have seen the same percentage of those cars have a failure. It just didn't happen and for a couple of reasons:

1. Less timing.
2. More fuel.

See the pattern here? The N/A tuned cars that had failure were running too lean and too much timing with the knock sensor sensitivity adjusted.

Are you gonna throw out the theory that an angry UAW worker must have installed all #8 rings upside down causing all the failures or eventual failures?

You are better off just stepping away from this discussion.



Go with a reputable tuner and you will be fine. Always run 91/93 in the car and you will be a happy owner. Don't let this fear mongering, bullshit deter you.

If the problem was solely the tune then why didnt mine blow up? I had the original Bama tune (the one with super aggressive timing and lean af) and ran the balls out of my car since day one. Then when the #8 issues started popping up all the tuners started dumbing down the tunes a little.

You are right about the boosted tunes with less timing and more fuel.

The main thing I am trying to get it is that you cant blame one tuner for these problems as every tuner including your beloved sugar daddy lund has had a failure. (sorry for the run on sentence).
I have seen a motor pop with out a tune first hand and it only takes one to validate the fact that it is possible.

And another thing.
My buddy has a 2010 gt. Thinking of trading it for an 11'. He posted this on Facebook.

Steven Moore
time to step the stang game up i guess since evos arent working out..

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Matthew Palmer and 2 others like this.

Dain Thorpe: Why arnt they ?
52 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: Brembos,projectors, good scoop = perfect......but black!? Too much to take care of lol
44 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: Hood*
44 minutes ago · Like

Chris Watson: Evo plus hard shifts equals junk yard.
42 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: ‎^makes no sense
39 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Great price! Just dont like the black as well.
And have the dealer check the ecu to see if it has ever had a tune on it. And do you know what the build date is?
20 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: There you go 5.0 all day!
15 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Road trip saturday perhaps
13 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: That's a horrible price for that car 22K+ miles no don't pay that much I paid 33k brand new sticker was 36,700 don't let them fool you.
13 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Just realized that has the exact options as mine just black. lol
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Chris Crabb: To me that 22k just means the motor isnt going to pop from a Number 8 failure. Would have already.
11 minutes ago · Like · 2

Matthew Palmer: Def a good price and like Crabb said already proven to be good with the mileage
7 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: Yeah I had the number 8 cylinder problem had my entire block replaced.
7 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Deff a good deal I'm thinking as long as it's by dented up lol
7 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: What mods did you have on your car when number 8 popped and how many miles?
6 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: I had my evolution tune and hushpower axle backs 5400 miles first reported case in Baltimore lol
5 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Evolution performance do the tune?
3 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: LOL. What forum are you on? You should do me a HUGE favor and hop on s197forum.com find the thread im in and tell them your motor popped with a lund tune.

Those guys are hard core Lund sack riders and think ALL the number 8 issues link to Bama tunes.
3 minutes ago · Like · 1

Chris Ford: Lol nope it was a factory defect bad ring lands on number 8 piston I have all kinds of pics I worked at the dealer I bought it from ha ha
2 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Yes, I know. The problem was from the factory not the tunes. But those douche bag fuck wads want to think other wise. HATE that forum. every thread turns into a bash of some other co. tune. apparently Lund is god...I didnt get that memo.
a few seconds ago · Like


(If you didnt figure it out I am 'Chris Crabb', And a side note. I honestly have no clue who Chris Ford is and have never meet him)
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...154589&id=100000801910827&notif_t=share_reply
^that is the link not sure on Steve's privacy settings tho. You may or may not be able to view it.

All I was getting at here is that Lund had a failure (oh no) so stop bashing Bama. They are both great tuners. For my own personal experience I have tried both and Bama has been there where Lund left me in the dark.

 

[shark tales]

I realize the value of all tuners, I have 0 preferences. I chimed in on this thread to gain info on tuners and to look further into the #8 cyl problem.

Like I stated I am just uneasy to mod a new 5.0 when something as simple as a tune can void the whole drivetrain warranty.

I am also wondering why no one has tried swapping out the ecm. surely its a great insurance policy if all works correctly.

Chris, what happened with your car when you got the fault? what did your dealership tell you and end up happening?

 

[Kingcrabb]

Chris, what happened with your car when you got the fault? what did your dealership tell you and end up happening?

???

 

[youdloose5.0]

yeah i believe tunes had nothing to do with this problem.

 

[shark tales]

???

I was under the impression you had the number 8 failure happen to your car

 

[Seer]

If the problem was solely the tune then why didnt mine blow up? I had the original Bama tune (the one with super aggressive timing and lean af) and ran the balls out of my car since day one. Then when the #8 issues started popping up all the tuners started dumbing down the tunes a little.

You are right about the boosted tunes with less timing and more fuel.

The main thing I am trying to get it is that you cant blame one tuner for these problems as every tuner including your beloved sugar daddy lund has had a failure. (sorry for the run on sentence).
I have seen a motor pop with out a tune first hand and it only takes one to validate the fact that it is possible.

And another thing.
My buddy has a 2010 gt. Thinking of trading it for an 11'. He posted this on Facebook.

Steven Moore
time to step the stang game up i guess since evos arent working out..

2011 Ford Mustang GT Premium Coatesville, Pennsylvania | Brian Hoskins Ford
www.brianhoskinsford.com
Ebony 2011 Ford Mustang Coatesville, Pennsylvania Brian Hoskins Ford. Click on our link now to view our wide selection of new, used, and certified preowned cars, trucks and SUV's
Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · about an hour ago near Elkton ·
Matthew Palmer and 2 others like this.

Dain Thorpe: Why arnt they ?
52 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: Brembos,projectors, good scoop = perfect......but black!? Too much to take care of lol
44 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: Hood*
44 minutes ago · Like

Chris Watson: Evo plus hard shifts equals junk yard.
42 minutes ago · Like

Matthew Palmer: ‎^makes no sense
39 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Great price! Just dont like the black as well.
And have the dealer check the ecu to see if it has ever had a tune on it. And do you know what the build date is?
20 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: There you go 5.0 all day!
15 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Road trip saturday perhaps
13 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: That's a horrible price for that car 22K+ miles no don't pay that much I paid 33k brand new sticker was 36,700 don't let them fool you.
13 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Just realized that has the exact options as mine just black. lol
13 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: To me that 22k just means the motor isnt going to pop from a Number 8 failure. Would have already.
11 minutes ago · Like · 2

Matthew Palmer: Def a good price and like Crabb said already proven to be good with the mileage
7 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: Yeah I had the number 8 cylinder problem had my entire block replaced.
7 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Deff a good deal I'm thinking as long as it's by dented up lol
7 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: What mods did you have on your car when number 8 popped and how many miles?
6 minutes ago · Like

Chris Ford: I had my evolution tune and hushpower axle backs 5400 miles first reported case in Baltimore lol
5 minutes ago · Like

Steven Moore: Evolution performance do the tune?
3 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: LOL. What forum are you on? You should do me a HUGE favor and hop on s197forum.com find the thread im in and tell them your motor popped with a lund tune.

Those guys are hard core Lund sack riders and think ALL the number 8 issues link to Bama tunes.
3 minutes ago · Like · 1

Chris Ford: Lol nope it was a factory defect bad ring lands on number 8 piston I have all kinds of pics I worked at the dealer I bought it from ha ha
2 minutes ago · Like

Chris Crabb: Yes, I know. The problem was from the factory not the tunes. But those douche bag fuck wads want to think other wise. HATE that forum. every thread turns into a bash of some other co. tune. apparently Lund is god...I didnt get that memo.
a few seconds ago · Like


(If you didnt figure it out I am 'Chris Crabb', And a side note. I honestly have no clue who Chris Ford is and have never meet him)
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...154589&id=100000801910827&notif_t=share_reply
^that is the link not sure on Steve's privacy settings tho. You may or may not be able to view it.

All I was getting at here is that Lund had a failure (oh no) so stop bashing Bama. They are both great tuners. For my own personal experience I have tried both and Bama has been there where Lund left me in the dark.

dear bama boy. Lund does not tune every car evo has. Evo does their own tuning as well.

 

[Sky Render]

If you look on tousley's site, the pcm's are pre tuned with your vehicles strategy code. As there are about 10 different pcm part #'s

I thought the keys must be reprogrammed to match the new EMS.

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[Kingcrabb]

dear bama boy. Lund does not tune every car evo has. Evo does their own tuning as well.

Evo's email tunes off their website are Lund tunes.

 

[Thereaper]

Where is Doug Studdard since AM bought him out? He's not writing tunes anymore so what's he doing, stocking shelves. I trusted him with my last car and I would trust him again.

 

[Kingcrabb]

I was under the impression you had the number 8 failure happen to your car

No.
At one point I thought it did. Around the time when the whole #8 thing was at its peak and I was just jumping to conclusions before I looked into it.

 

[Seer]

Evo's email tunes off their website are Lund tunes.

not all no. Go back and research you will see there are quite a few people who found evo does not use Lund for everything.

Also every case Lund has been connected to a number 8 failing the person also ran a diff tune prior. Number 8 just does not let go. Fact.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Chris Crabb: Yes, I know. The problem was from the factory not the tunes. But those douche bag fuck wads want to think other wise. HATE that forum. every thread turns into a bash of some other co. tune. apparently Lund is god...I didnt get that memo.
a few seconds ago · Like

Not on either side of the fence as my car is stock, but someone has to say this. Why the fuck do you keep coming back to the forum you HATE so much. If you dont like it here do us all a favor and GTFO and dont come back.

 

[S197 GT]

KingCrabb is trying to get himself in the Biggest DB thread.

We get it, you can't post without mentioning the Lund tuned failure.

You've made your point, if you've got nothing else to contribute besides misinformation and clips of Facebook posts, you know where the door is.

 

[Kingcrabb]

KingCrabb is trying to get himself in the Biggest DB thread.

We get it, you can't post without mentioning the Lund tuned failure.

You've made your point, if you've got nothing else to contribute besides misinformation and clips of Facebook posts, you know where the door is.

What Misinformation have I posted? That not ALL evos tunes are Lund tunes. Whoops my bad. Everything els has all been fact and non you guys want to except the fact that a very small hand full of these motors had problems from the factory. Big deal. The part I dont understand is how you guys can bash a shop cuz they had some tunes on cars that blew...again, big deal.

And the only reason I keep coming back is because its amusing how you guys react to my comments.
And I'm not just gonna run away, that would be to easy.

 

[wbt]

What Misinformation have I posted? That not ALL evos tunes are Lund tunes. Whoops my bad. Everything els has all been fact and non you guys want to except the fact that a very small hand full of these motors had problems from the factory. Big deal. The part I dont understand is how you guys can bash a shop cuz they had some tunes on cars that blew...again, big deal.

And the only reason I keep coming back is because its amusing how you guys react to my comments.
And I'm not just gonna run away, that would be to easy.

You just ran yourself down to 0 credibility. If you keep going you are going to go into credibility debt and there are no credibility debt consolidators to help you out. It is probably a good time for you to exit stage left.

 

[stkjock]

And the only reason I keep coming back is because its amusing how you guys react to my comments.
And I'm not just gonna run away, that would be to easy.

oh so you're a internet troll?

 

[Grabber Blue 5.0]

The main thing I am trying to get it is that you cant blame one tuner for these problems as every tuner including your beloved sugar daddy lund has had a failure.

Oh really? Show me the guy that had a failure with VMP?