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oh so you're a internet troll?

I think that's the first time I have been called a troll...

You just ran yourself down to 0 credibility. If you keep going you are going to go into credibility debt and there are no credibility debt consolidators to help you out. It is probably a good time for you to exit stage left. :thumb2:

You keep bringing up credibility....
What, because I am joe shmoe and don't run a shop that automatically means every thing I say isn't true?
What makes you so credible? :oh: it must be the Lund tune you have. Well give me a min ill go put my cam tune on and I can be cool just like you guys.

I presented every piece of info you guys were looking for when my buddys '12 popped and you still continue to bust my balls....

Oh really? Show me the guy that had a failure with VMP?

I may not know any but there may be one out there who knows.

Also, the reason you guys see Bama associated with Number 8 failures could be the fact that they sell more tunes? I have no clue on who sells the most but American Muscle is pretty big and ods are they have more tunes floating around then others. Probably the reason you might not find a VMP failure. I have only heard their name on this forum.
 
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No.
At one point I thought it did. Around the time when the whole #8 thing was at its peak and I was just jumping to conclusions before I looked into it.

i have only ran lunds tune and i had mt #8 cylinder let go so its not the tuners fault it was fords fault.
 

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i have only ran lunds tune and i had mt #8 cylinder let go so its not the tuners fault it was fords fault.

To me I believe it was ford that had/has some bad motors.
I had Bama's tune when it used to be aggressive with timing and my car still has number 8 ring lands and compression.

How many miles did you have when it let go?
 

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Also every case Lund has been connected to a number 8 failing the person also ran a diff tune prior. Number 8 just does not let go. Fact.

i have only ran lunds tune and i had mt #8 cylinder let go so its not the tuners fault it was fords fault.
according to Seer's theory (all speculation) you had to have ran another tune before..........bottom line, I dont car who tuned the cars with failed #8's we have no idea how the car was treated and if the recommended octane was used at all times.
 
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king crabb its chris ford, and scott 0 i have always ran 93 octane thew my mustang and i ran the car never had a different tune on.
 

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^^wasnt accusing you or anything just stating there are variables that we are unaware of from one failure to another, but yet we all continue to bash tuners because we may not particularly believe in their ability to tune
 

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^^wasnt accusing you or anything just stating there are variables that we are unaware of from one failure to another, but yet we all continue to bash tuners because we may not particularly believe in their ability to tune

i know your not i was just telling you and ive gone threw this unfortunatly and the for engineer told me it was just a factory default heres some pics of my #8 piston.
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felt like posting an exhaust/ burnout video its real quick.
http://youtu.be/jrK9ba5-qng

 
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since it was deemed a Ford issue, was it replaced at no cost to you? and did the engineer explain why its only the #8 piston that fails, its not as if there are 8 pistons that are pulled from different bins.......
 

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^^wasnt accusing you or anything just stating there are variables that we are unaware of from one failure to another, but yet we all continue to bash tuners because we may not particularly believe in their ability to tune

yup.
All the tuners out there wouldn't have made it this far if they couldn't tune.

^^wasnt accusing you or anything just stating there are variables that we are unaware of from one failure to another, but yet we all continue to bash tuners because we may not particularly believe in their ability to tune

For what its worth. I always run 93 and ALWAYS beat the shit out of my car...That's why I bought it. And it runs like a top at over 16k.
 
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i have only ran lunds tune and i had mt #8 cylinder let go so its not the tuners fault it was fords fault.
Is that your expert opinion based on your years of automotive engineering training, education and experience?

I think that's the first time I have been called a troll....

if the shoe fits.

And seriously. Give the Lund thing a rest. It's way past getting old. (I would say the same no matter who u were referencing)
 

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Is that your expert opinion based on your years of automotive engineering training, education and experience?



if the shoe fits.

And seriously. Give the Lund thing a rest. It's way past getting old. (I would say the same no matter who u were referencing)


Well according to every ones theory here lund does not blow up motors unless there was a another tune on it prior.

And I totally agree. That is what I have been trying to do the whole time. I am not hear to bash a tuner. Im sure their all good. But to say that Bama pops number 8s and Lund doesn't unless there was another tune is just ridiculous.
 

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since it was deemed a Ford issue, was it replaced at no cost to you? and did the engineer explain why its only the #8 piston that fails, its not as if there are 8 pistons that are pulled from different bins.......

yupp all short blocks at the time were on national back order so they gave me a new long block and everything and no unfortunatly cause i was working that day didnt have much time to talk to him.
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this is the brand new block
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this is the bad block
 
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yupp all short blocks at the time were on national back order so they gave me a new long block and everything and no unfortunatly cause i was working that day didnt have much time to talk to him.
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this is the brand new block
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this is the bad block



So you are saying you had a Lund tune on your car when you took it into the dealer to be diagnosed? And they found it to have a bad #8 piston and they covered it under warranty? If so you would be the first to get your shit covered with Ford knowing your car was tuned with an aftermarket tune.
 

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KingCrabb can you send me some powerball numbers....... The odds of the number 8 and you knowing them....... Just pm the numbers bro!!!!!!
 

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So you are saying you had a Lund tune on your car when you took it into the dealer to be diagnosed? And they found it to have a bad #8 piston and they covered it under warranty? If so you would be the first to get your shit covered with Ford knowing your car was tuned with an aftermarket tune.

hell no lol i took the tune off the day before i took it to the shop ha ha
 

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So they didn't look to see if the car had been tuned before? Hard to believe Ford would let this slip by with the TSB they issued just for this issue.

okay first off this isnt anything that happened rescently this happend back in december of 2010 when i only had 5400 miles on it and the check engine light came on while i was idling in a parking lot the code was a misfire code a P0308 code to be exact but the problem was it wasnt a misfire i had lost 10% compretion in my cylinder cause of the bad rings causing it to misfire set a misfire code cause of the oil in the combustion chamber. Also a ford engineer came out and put a ford flight recorder on it that pulls memory out of the PCM and sent the data to ford, since i took the tune off the flight recorder couldnt find any wrong data so they said there wasnt anything wrong and seeing that i had scraped up pistons shows that i had piston slap in my cylinder, no tune is going to give you wrong piston ring land specs only the factory could have done that when the motor was assembled.
 

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okay first off this isnt anything that happened rescently this happend back in december of 2010 when i only had 5400 miles on it and the check engine light came on while i was idling in a parking lot the code was a misfire code a P0308 code to be exact but the problem was it wasnt a misfire i had lost 10% compretion in my cylinder cause of the bad rings causing it to misfire set a misfire code cause of the oil in the combustion chamber. Also a ford engineer came out and put a ford flight recorder on it that pulls memory out of the PCM and sent the data to ford, since i took the tune off the flight recorder couldnt find any wrong data so they said there wasnt anything wrong and seeing that i had scraped up pistons shows that i had piston slap in my cylinder, no tune is going to give you wrong piston ring land specs only the factory could have done that when the motor was assembled.

So your #8 failed due to a bad tune and you got lucky and Ford replaced it. I thought you was KingCrab's buddy with a stock car. Can somebody please get CSI on this case.
 
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