Dealership Issue

[cyclerick]

It all depends on how you drive it. Any amount of bashing will never be covered under warranty. If you track it frequently or run 1/4 miles every weekend, no warranty will ever cover that. If you want to play, be prepared to pay.

 

[johnnyv8]

It all depends on how you drive it. Any amount of bashing will never be covered under warranty. If you track it frequently or run 1/4 miles every weekend, no warranty will ever cover that. If you want to play, be prepared to pay.

Are they really going try and figure out if you race your car? They know how people drive these cars. It should be built to handle the race track. What's the point of building a high hp car if u can't race if and stand behind it via warranty.

 

[cyclerick]

It's easy to check. All they have to do is check this forum where you post your times, pictures of your cars, where you live, etc. Ford racing is out to sell race parts not warranty your car. Look at all the discussion there was on line lock, how it can be used etc. Unless it's in writing don't be confident it will be covered. When I asked Ford Racing about the warranty on a SC'd Aluminator they were vague. Again, you shouldn't have any problems so long as you don't beat the crap out of it. My 2011 GT is 620-650 RWHP, soon to be 700 with 30k miles as a DD and should last a couple more years as I don't beat on it every weekend. I'm waiting on Ford to offer the GT350 crate engine, then I will swap one in and take my car to 800rwhp (assuming it will be all forged internals with better flowing heads than the aluminator).
These engines can only take so much abuse. The guys that run them hard every weekend have them last 2 years tops before they scrap they're engines.

 

[johnnyv8]

^I'm not arguing what Ford actually does, I'm just saying its bs. And you better believe Id at least call a lawyer to see if i have a case if they go on a mustang forum to deny warranty work.

 

[BruceH]

^I'm not arguing what Ford actually does, I'm just saying its bs. And you better believe Id at least call a lawyer to see if i have a case if they go on a mustang forum to deny warranty work.

Mitsubishi is the one who's known for doing that. A few years ago someone on another forum had an Aluminator 3v shortblock spin a bearing. FRPP sent a new shortblock without asking questions. They are the only company I'm aware of that hasn't argued and found a way to blame the user.

With that said I couldn't blame Ford one bit for denying a warranty claim that was the fault of the user. Things like an aftermarket tune causing detonation, a power adder breaking a rod, etc.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

They all come with billet gears now.

Well the one i bought last year didnt. Who knows what youd get from FRPP, maybe a leftover?

 

[BruceH]

They all come with billet gears now.

????? Where do you get that info from? The GT500 pump has a billet backplate. Ford determined that flex in the pump was causing the gears to bind and that a slightly thicker billet backplate was the solution.

 

[cyclerick]

????? Where do you get that info from? The GT500 pump has a billet backplate. Ford determined that flex in the pump was causing the gears to bind and that a slightly thicker billet backplate was the solution.

Ford racing technical. They are adamant about it.

 

[Mystickeith50]

They were also adamant about it a year ago and admitted they didn't know whether the ones that were supposed have them did....many guys ripped there's apart to find they weren't in there. There's a thread on svtp that documents it pretty well.

 

[drive_55_not]

Ford racing technical. They are adamant about it.

The GT500 oil pump does not have billet gears, The CJ pump does and it's $650 vs $120 for the GT500 unit.



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[cyclerick]

You'd think when you're buying a crate motor that you'd get a build sheet with it. I asked about this and was told not available. A simple piece of paper with the engine serial # and parts list could eliminate these questions. I was shocked that the 2015 GT doesn't come with billet oil pump gears, yet I believe they come with forged internals.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

According to frpp the new aluminator comes with the cj oil pump. Would be nice if they would ship everyone who bought an aluminator within the last year the new oil pump.

 

[gtman]

You have a right to be angry. Stay strong brother

 

[BruceH]

Ford racing technical. They are adamant about it.

You called and talked to them? If so did you ask about the pump in general or the gears in particular?

I purchased a 2013 GT500 pump and disassembled it. Same gears as a stock 3v. Same housing too. The differences were in the pressure relief spring and billet backplate.

 

[BruceH]

Ford Racing has taken the Mustang GT 5.0L 4V TiVCT engine and created another in its series of "Aluminator" crate engines built to deliver higher performance. The 5.0 Aluminator NA is built with connecting rods and pistons designed specifically for high performance applications. Mahle ® 11.0:1 compression ratio forged pistons are hard anodized and feature Grafal ® low friction coating. The connecting rods are premium Manley ® H-beam with ARP ® 2000 bolts and fitted with BOSS 302 high performance bearings.
The 5.0L Aluminator NA is a direct bolt in for 2011-2014 Mustang GT. It can be used in street rod or resto-mod builds using Ford Racing's 5.0L engine controls pack. Part No: M-6017-A504V.
Fits 2011-2014 Mustang GT
5.0L (302 cubic inches)
11.0:1 compression ratio (nominal)
Mahle�® Hard Anodized forged pistons with Grafal�® low friction coating
Manley�® H-beam connecting rods with ARP�® 2000 bolts
BOSS 302 connecting rod bearings
Uses production Mustang GT aluminum block, M-6010-A50L4V,
Large rear sump oil pan with 8qt capacity features optimized oil drainback and windage tray to control oil and improve high-rpm performance
Tuned composite Mustang GT intake manifold with production drive by wire 80 mm throttle body
Four-valve-per-cylinder aluminum heads with roller-finger followers reduce friction.
Boss 302 Valve Springs, M-6513-M50BR
Ford Racing engine cover kit M-9680-M50
Includes manual transmission engine injector harness
Front cover is modified for Ford Racing Supercharger Kits
For applications not using a Ford Racing Supercharger Kit, stock timing cover must be installed.
Includes colder heat range zero (0) spark plugs, M-12405-M50
Includes Ford Racing oil filter, part no: M-6731-FL820
Includes billet steel gerotor oil pump M-6600-50CJ
Vehicle harness and PCM not included. Use Ford Racing wiring, PCM and installation kit M-6017-A504V designed for street rod/project car installation.
Does not include alternator, for alternator kit see M-8600-M50BALT
Oil Line Adapter M-6881-M50 available for applications requiring oil filter relocation
Engine mount bosses and bellhousing mount pattern common to 4.6L modular engines.
Engines built after 8/8/13 are equipped with a water pump using a 3-bolt pulley pattern.
Engine Dimension PDF Chart CLICK HERE

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