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[W3bb3r04]

you could say that.

I never said I wasn't hard on things. But you're 100% right, the motor let go, a good bit below its its max.

I think I know the hint to the reason... Does it have to do with timing and fuel?

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

Interesting. Hmmmm......those tooooooooooooons aren't supposed to POP motors.

 

[Wlkn Tal]

This certainly sucks, good luck on re-build

 

[Ky S197]

Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

Dam that sucks, I don't think Spicoli can fix this.

 

[BruceH]

Powdered rods let go? Hmmm.

Are you going with another nickosil lined aluminum block? Or one of the frpp cast iron short blocks? Or something else, hmmm? I'll bet it has steel forged rods no matter what.

 

[Seer]

Interesting. Hmmmm......those tooooooooooooons aren't supposed to POP motors.

I'm not blaming the tune.

Powdered rods let go? Hmmm.

Are you going with another nickosil lined aluminum block? Or one of the frpp cast iron short blocks? Or something else, hmmm? I'll bet it has steel forged rods no matter what.

FRPP iron block. I cheaped out. It'll hold the new setups output though.

 

[kdanner]

Interesting. Hmmmm......those tooooooooooooons aren't supposed to POP motors.

OP owns a pro racer package.

 

[Seer]

OP owns a pro racer package.

op didnt tune the gt500, op left it to the pros.

 

[DRock]

Cant wait to see the new beast that goes in!

 

[Meikol02]

Been there done that...good luck with the new build!

 

[kdanner]

op didnt tune the gt500, op left it to the pros.

So you're saying I don't have PMs from you asking me about your GT500 calibration that you're looking at with your pro racer package? Or I don't have one where you say you had someone at SCT decrypt Lund's file for you? Because you know I do.

Yes, I know you said this wasn't tune related, you weren't the one that steered this thread down that path. Darren did. And he should know you have a pro racer package as well as these other facts before he points fingers.

 

[Makdaddy]

Ouch. That wouldn't have happened if it was a 5.0.

BS

sometimes u never know
my buddy had built 454's in his 38 foot Scarab
we were just cruising slow and heard the dreaded rod knock. got it all apart and Fri kin crank broke at journal. it was a steel and balanced crank. so u never know

 

[BruceH]

I think it's pretty hard to blow a motor with the tune. Unless the knock sensors are disabled or the tuner is a complete moron who disregards all the footnotes provided by sct.

 

[Seer]

So you're saying I don't have PMs from you asking me about your GT500 calibration that you're looking at with your pro racer package? Or I don't have one where you say you had someone at SCT decrypt Lund's file for you? Because you know I do.

Yes, I know you said this wasn't tune related, you weren't the one that steered this thread down that path. Darren did. And he should know you have a pro racer package as well as these other facts before he points fingers.

You don't even know the half of it.

 

[TGR96]

True Forged wheels would have prevented all that carnage.

Oh no you didn't!

Ouch. That wouldn't have happened if it was a 5.0.

It would have been number 8.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

So you're saying I don't have PMs from you asking me about your GT500 calibration that you're looking at with your pro racer package? Or I don't have one where you say you had someone at SCT decrypt Lund's file for you? Because you know I do.

Yes, I know you said this wasn't tune related, you weren't the one that steered this thread down that path. Darren did. And he should know you have a pro racer package as well as these other facts before he points fingers.

Point taken.

On a serious note, if Seer's bottom end was good for more than he was pushing, what would cause such a catastrophic failure other than a bad tune.......whoever tuned it or played with the tune???

Wouldn't this more likely be tune related or would we deem it "Operator error"?

By no means trying to start a fire, just wondering what caused this motor to let go and be destroyed to this magnitude?

 

[BruceH]

It seems to me that stock GT500 motors usually go around 750rwhp if the rods go. Despite Ford advertising them as forged they are still made from powdered metal and any weak spot will show itself. 750 is alot of power.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

It seems to me that stock GT500 motors usually go around 750rwhp if the rods go. Despite Ford advertising them as forged they are still made from powdered metal and any weak spot will show itself. 750 is alot of power.

Exceeding the power limits is too logical. LOL!!

 

[AnotherS197GT]

Point taken.

On a serious note, if Seer's bottom end was good for more than he was pushing, what would cause such a catastrophic failure other than a bad tune.......whoever tuned it or played with the tune???

Wouldn't this more likely be tune related or would we deem it "Operator error"?

By no means trying to start a fire, just wondering what caused this motor to let go and be destroyed to this magnitude?

My valve springs were rated above my cam specs, sometimes shit happens and you get a bad part. I'd think that if it were tune related he'd have a melted piston, not a chucked rod.

BS

It was a joke.

 

[Seer]

It seems to me that stock GT500 motors usually go around 750rwhp if the rods go. Despite Ford advertising them as forged they are still made from powdered metal and any weak spot will show itself. 750 is alot of power.

They tend to go at the 800-825 area, it is well advised to stop making HP at the 750 mark.

There are a few stock bottom end GT500's making 900 on E85 currently though.