New to me 2008 GT 5spd

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Hello, I'm new to Mustangs and picked up a 2008 5spd GT w/ 187k miles about 3-4 months ago. I've slowly been working all the gremlins out of it but it is drivable and freshly serviced. It came with a FRPP Hot Rod camshaft NIB but I have yet to install it. I found and follow Brenspeed and Four Eyes on YouTube and hear that an individual by the name of "Lito" is who everyone recommends for tuning. I think I'd much rather go with the Brenspeed Detroit Rocker camshafts instead of the FRPP camshafts. I've been considering selling the FRPP ones but don't really know how much TO sell them for, but it would be even better to find someone who's wanting to get rid of NIB Detroit Rocker camshafts and just make a trade lol. I really like the sound of Four Eyes' exhaust at his Stage 2 build, which I believe was made up of the Kooks LT headers w/ catted X-pipe and the Pypes Pypebomb axleback. Does anyone know if the Pypebomb is similar to the Flowmaster Outlaw Axlebacks?

Aside from the cams, exhaust work, and a tune, it just needs a brake upgrade and ac system work. I'm learning the hard way about the "black death" from the ac compressor. In the process of replacing ac system components to solve the issue, I unfortunately contaminated all the new parts with the black death crud. Flushed three times already and still can't get it to go away so I will be trying to flush the entire system once more with paint thinner or buying all new parts and lines again in the future. The brakes will likely be what I work on next assuming I don't find those Kooks LTs on sale somewhere online. I'm pretty sure the wheels on this Mustang won't fit over the big brake 6 piston calipers as they are the black 18x10 or x9" saleen style wheels. Does anyone know if the 4 piston GT500 calipers with correct corresponding rotors will clear the 18" saleens?
- Caliper Part # 97B17947A & 97B17947B
- Rotor & Pad Set # CRK4547
I know there are videos and threads on the diy brake upgrades but I don't know if I'll need spacers or not to clear the wheels and also what stainless brake lines will fit this either. If I do have to go with bigger wheels then I think I may have to lift the car since it has a drop on it. I don't know how to determine how much more wheel will fit before rubbing becomes an issue.

As mentioned earlier, I've been pretty busy sorting out gremlins. I'll list what all I've completed in case anyone else happens to stumble upon this post in searching for potential solutions.

Cruise Control Switch : Driver side foot well area, it was mistaken for being the cause of an occasional sticky brake light.
All 4 Blend doors : Driver side one was a living nightmare.
Driver Lock Switch : Had a broken circuit board.
Battery : Was time for replacement.
Key Fobs : After replacing the car battery, the key fob was erased and could not get the car the relearn the original fob. Order 2 online and still couldn't get them to learn the fobs. After a week of digging, I found that the fob learning module was tied into the SJB fuse box in the passenger foot well area. Removed it and found traces of corrosion caused from a possible previous water leak. I disassembled and sprayed with electronic contact cleaner and let air dry before reinstalling. That fixed the issue of the key fob relearning not working.
AC System : Replaced 90% of the entire system in the wrong order so I'll be doing that all over again.
Horn & Fog Light : Poorly done wiring job was the culprit, fixed.
Fuel Gauge Stepper Motor : What originally was thought to be a fuel pump issue, ended up only being a bad stepper motor on the gauge cluster. Easy fix with soldering iron and new motor.
Passenger Seat Switch : Was missing, replaced and works as intended.

I've also replaced all spark plugs, ignition coils, changed oil, cleaned CAI and ran a standard (dry) compression test. The numbers were higher than I hoped to see but I think they're still within tolerance. Here were the results of that:
1 - 102
2 - 107
3 - 123
4 - 114
5 - 125
6 - 103
7 - 115
8 - 127

I look forward to talking shop with you all and learning more about this platform.

-Steam

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Welcome! Nice all black car. Painted mirrors?

Here is some documents to the engine

I think your compression is at the low end (?)

From my experience with an other car, stainless steel brake hoses are not worth the effort. The whole brake line is 90% a pipe and the few inches to the caliper doesn't do much, in opposite to the line at a motorcycle.
 

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No lift needed. I'm sitting on 20x11 rear, 20x9.5 front.
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GriffX, Hello! I'm glad you brought the compression up. When you say the compression is at the low end, are you referring to the range of each results or that the results should have been higher all together? I am a littler worried that they should be closer together. I did grab a Hanes book about a month ago to help with some of the maintenance and repairs. I totally forgot to even look at it for the compression test as well... Thank you for that info on the brake lines, l noticed the solid brake line and snatched my head when I seen how many others recommended it. As for the mirrors, I don't think they are painted. They seem to have the standard tiny dimples in the plastic that all the other Ford side mirrors have. Its currently covered in bee crap and dirt from driving to work. While I wish it were all black, I believe its Alloy Gray (G5 paint code).

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MrBhp, Hello! What wheels and tires are those? Are those the stock calipers and rotors for your car? Nice setup.
 

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Congratulations on the GT.

10% variance between cylinders is the allotted amount. So cylinders 1, 2 & 6 are a little below the threshold…
 

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Re: FRPP vs DR cams, they both about the same in terms of gains and idle quality. Most agree that FRPPs have a better lope overall if that’s what you are going after, but both are common enough any tuner worth their salt can tune them. I don’t think it’s worth selling the FRPPs at a loss over the DRs.

Flowmaster outlaws are similar in design to the Bombs in that they are basically just straight through “resonator” axlebacks…if you call an open pipe a resonator. Outlaws have a unique sound and are wake the dead loud, if you have a catless mid pipe.
 

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When you say the compression is at the low end, are you referring to the range of each results or that the results should have been higher all together?
The Ford document has a table with the compression spread over the cylinders, the lowest should have 75% of the highest and yours is right on it, but has the lowest entry of the table with 102.

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ran a standard (dry) compression test. The numbers were higher than I hoped to see but I think they're still within tolerance. Here were the results of that:
1 - 102
2 - 107
3 - 123
4 - 114
5 - 125
6 - 103
7 - 115
8 - 127

Those are low numbers (I'd have expected close to 180psi at sea level) but don't panic 'cause it may come down to incorrect methodology. Did you remove ALL of the spark plugs and go WOT when you conducted the tests? If the engine isn't burning oil or knocking and performs well, there's still plenty of life in it yet.
IMO you might as well keep the Hot Rod camshafts. The difference in performance from the Detroit Rockers is negligible, and a tune from Lito would definitely improve drivability.
 

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This is my old 96’ GT 2V 4.6. I had the car over 15+ years and got her with 75k. Sold it to the kid down the street a couple of years ago with 120k on the clock. These are the numbers at 120k. Please search the net. 10% variances is a general rule of thumb that I have used for over 30 years buying used cars and build engines and racing Mustangs.

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Dino, Hello! I used your guide to the blend doors to replace all four of mine, so I thank you for that write up. When doing the compression test, I removed the fuel pump relay then I only removed one spark plug at a time. I would then turn the key to start the car and wait until it reached 5-6 rotations, record the results and replace the spark plug and move to the next one. This was a method I found on YouTube. I did not press the gas pedal at any point in my testing? Is this what you are referring to? The car overall drives well, I use it to get to work without any issue.

JC SSP, hello! I feel that the 10% rule is a much better scale to go by but have seen others mention that up to 20-25% was acceptable as well. I think I will check out my Hanes book and revisit the link that Griffx provided before I do another compression test today or tomorrow.

Thank you to everyone else on their feedback about the Detroit Rocker camshafts. I probably will just keep them and install them after I can get good compression results.

-Steam
 

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If you press the pedal to the metal and start, the car goes into clear-flood-mode, that means the TB is fully open and no fuel gets injected, so no need to pull the relay. Im sure the compression will be higher with open TB.
 

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So I'm in the middle of installing these FRPP camshafts and see that the install guide is saying I need to use a valve spring compressor to hold the camshaft roller followers. Anyone know if there is one at Harbor Freight that will do the job? I thought this was going to be a quick install, damn.
 

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Thanks to beer I finished the install last night around 9pm. I'll post the before and after video on a new thread in a non-introduction thread category instead of dragging this one out lol. Thanks to everyone who made responses and posted links.
 

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