Newby with blown engine/Whipple

[ChevyKiller]

Hell - everyone knows octane booster is good for up to 800 rwhp on the stock block...

 

[NastyStang113]

Again, in this thread, PLEASE tell me you are not THAT stupid...

...please

Again, PLEASE tell me you're not a tool box.

...Please!!

There the OP hasn't even come back here to say what happened. We don't know the situation. Maybe the shop sponsored the car and drove the car to make sure shit on it was right. Who knows. Don't just assume and post stupid shit.

 

[maxpayne]

Hell - everyone knows octane booster is good for up to 800 rwhp on the stock block...

seriously....I'm trying to figure out,even if he was using 93,and with the crapy tune,was that still gonna happen?

 

[Agent Jones]

How much RWHP and PSI were you at when they blew it?

 

[Agent Jones]

seriously....I'm trying to figure out,even if he was using 93,and with the crapy tune,was that still gonna happen?

91 and 93 are interchangeable.....alot of places 91 is the highest octane you can get and ford and the tuners know that.

 

[maxpayne]

91 and 93 are interchangeable.....alot of places 91 is the highest octane you can get and ford and the tuners know that.

when I installed the KB,and called them,they said 91 at least....

 

[eleanor06]

Sorry Agent Jones I dont know. All I know is that there was nothing custom about it. They took the Whipple out of the box and installed the FR tune. I was supposed to go back and get a Dyno and never got the chance. I wont make that mistake twice.

 

[Agent Jones]

when I installed the KB,and called them,they said 91 at least....

that is correct...atleast 91...if you live in an area that gets 93 then get 93...

normally areas do not carry both 91 and 93...they are both classified as super unleaded or premium unleaded. they are the top of the line for pump gas generally

 

[eleanor06]

Paint guy drove it to spot weld the exhaust. The exhaust had moved just a tad so it would vibrate against the body. Was going to remove the clamp and do a better weld.

 

[Agent Jones]

Sorry Agent Jones I dont know. All I know is that there was nothing custom about it. They took the Whipple out of the box and installed the FR tune. I was supposed to go back and get a Dyno and never got the chance. I wont make that mistake twice.

ok thanks...i just had a saleen supercharger installed and tuned by jon lund...its at 440rwhp and i was just wondering if i need to turn it down a little bit so i dont blow my motor.

 

[retfr8flyr]

If Lund tuned you car you are good to go he is one of the best in the country.


Earl

 

[Vapour Trails]

numbnuts... that is a big word for someone that dosent even read the first post.




Showin' your ass, huh!?!

You still didn't get it, I wasn't talking about the engine or the rebuild. Next time I'll use a quote.

 

[CataclysmGT]

Chad is good at name calling, and not much else.

 

[2005 white s197]

What fucking world do you live in? OP stay far far away from MMR.


Earl

Actually, I live in your world but just needed to stop by here to see how many "jerks" still posted here. Its amazing how you "feed" off of each other...........(LMAO.....again).

 

[ZmanM3]

Actually, I live in your world but just needed to stop by here to see how many "jerks" still posted here. Its amazing how you "feed" off of each other...........(LMAO.....again).

Still a lot of us "jerks," its amazing how stupid you are.

 

[eleanor06]

Update

One question that has come up is compression vs, boost. The engine builder has stated that the 10:1 compression (Stock) is what killed the rods. The comments below seems to make sense and was posted on another forum:

The other point of failure are the rods. There is a LOT of talk on this
board about how the rods are the weak point in the S197 drive train.
But I challenge anyone to show me a photo a of a rod that failed in
compression at boost of 14 psi or less. There are none because the rods
do not fail in compression, i.e. the power
of the supercharger bending them. They fail in tension, i.e. high RPMs
pulling them apart. The inertial loading (tension) of a rod increases by the square of the engine RPM. That means if you increase the RPMs from 6000 to 6600 you've increase the load on the rods by 40%. If you want more power, don't increase the RPM, increase the psi and keep the RPM below 6000


My builder wants to take my compression down to 8:5 to 1 instead of 10:1. I assume this is another one of the topics that opinions vary based on experience. My concern is that If I allow the 8:5to 1 then I cant use the default ford racing tune. Living in Oklahoma makes it near impossible to find a tuner that is well respected but maybe that is nationwide as well.

 

[EagleStroker]

Do 9.3 minimum, on a forged rod the rod will not fail unless your doing something you shouldn't be with it, the bolt will. I've said it a million times. With the bolt that eagle kit comes with your good for 8500 RPM @ 700 horsepower.

 

[Grabber07']

Im just not understanding the builder blaming your stock compression on the failure. There are thousands of S197s running around with Twin screw powered motors and stock internals. If the tune is safe and everythings in check. The motor should not pop. Yes crazy things can happen...but to blame it on your STOCK compression seems a bit far fetched

Am I wrong in assuming this?

 

[Steedman07]

Actually, I live in your world but just needed to stop by here to see how many "jerks" still posted here. Its amazing how you "feed" off of each other...........(LMAO.....again).

Go back to Mustang Forums and tell all your butt buddies how you..."told those S197Forum guys a thing or two.."..Then head on over to Vtec forums and tell all your fagget friends about the rev and burnout contest you won last night at the local 4H club you retarded sperm..

 

[stangzilla]

do you think that that would've happen if you were using a 93 octane,or octane booster?

the ford tune is for 91 octane