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Sky Render

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Yep, Kevin's right. I was able to limp the car to the wedding for pictures and dropped it back off at the dealer. They're replacing the cam phaser and oil control module. I'm supposed to get the car back tomorrow. *fingers crossed*
 

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Yep, Kevin's right. I was able to limp the car to the wedding for pictures and dropped it back off at the dealer. They're replacing the cam phaser and oil control module. I'm supposed to get the car back tomorrow. *fingers crossed*
They've replaced both solenoids, both wiring pigtails, both oil control modules, and both phasers on the passenger-side cylinder head. Codes still popped up. Now they're contacting engineering at Ford.

My life is such a struggle sometimes. <__<

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You just got married, have a great car and it's getting fixed at no cost to you---a lot more struggling going on somewhere.

Think I'm an ass if you like but just a little perspective.
 

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Look forward to seeing it back on the tarmac. Congratz on the nuptials.
 

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They've replaced both solenoids, both wiring pigtails, both oil control modules, and both phasers on the passenger-side cylinder head. Codes still popped up. Now they're contacting engineering at Ford.

This will be interesting since there isn't anything else in the works to cause these issues. I hope they get it worked out soon!
 

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PCM issues and main harness issues have been a problem for years. I'm assuming something has some high resistance or is pinched somewhere.


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PCM issues and main harness issues have been a problem for years. I'm assuming something has some high resistance or is pinched somewhere.


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Is there a ground connection for the passenger-side head?

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IIRC it's grounded through the PCM.


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Check the wiring diagram and it will show where it's grounded.


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At this point, you may be wondering "Where has Sky Render and the Evil Pony been?" and "Why is there a picture of a defective, hanging-chad 2000 Presidential voting ballot in this build thread?" and "Why was Firefly REALLY canceled?"

I shall answer 2 of these 3 questions.

So, to recap. At the end of May--right before Hyperfest--two codes popped up on my Mustang: P0012 and P0014. This occurred with highway-speed stumbling and a lack of low-end power. Silly me took it to those dimwitted douchebags at Hagerstown Ford who did nothing. After taking it to a competent dealer, the Mustang had a VCT solenoid replaced. This did not fix the problem.

I picked up my car for a week to use for pictures and such at our wedding, then took it back to the dealer. Next, the dealer replaced both phasers, oil control units, solenoids, and wiring pigtails on the passenger-side head. The issue still remained.

The master tech working on my car contacted Ford's Tech Support Hotline, who proceeded to run him through a battery of tests on everything electronic on my Mustang, even though the tech told them that the oil pressure on my engine seemed too high. And by "too high," I mean 115 PSI.

Now, you will recall that oil is used to advance and retard the cams in VCT. Indeed, a failing oil pump (causing low oil pressure) can cause VCT issues at idle and low RPMs. However, my VCT issues occured at highway speeds, when there should be plenty of oil pressure...

To make a long story somewhat shorter, the tech finally found the culprit when he was removing an external oil pressure gauge from the rear of the passenger-side head. He located a "piece of silicon" lodged in there. He removed it, cleaned the head, flushed the oil once again, and...

...Voila. The oil pressure was back to normal, and the VCT functioned perfectly, and there were no more fault codes, and Firefly was back on the air. Well, scratch that last one, damn it.

After consulting with engineering support, it was... admitted by them that there were "rare issues" with factory headgaskets on the early 5.0s where the holes for oil passages were not quite punched all the way through, leaving a "hanging chad" that could later detach and wreak havoc in a cylinder head's oiling passages. I was fortunate that my tech was able to discover this before he had to pull the entire cylinder head.

So, the Mustang is back in the garage, but I am rather unhappy at the tech support that Ford provided to the service department. If they knew of this issue, why the FRAK didn't they say something sooner? It's bloody unacceptable that I pay over $30,000 for a car with a warranty that ends up sitting at a dealer for almost a month and a half whilst Ford's supposed experts hem and haw and wonder what the problem might be.

But enough of that. I'm just glad I have my car back! :driver:
 

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Glad they got it figured out. That is such a random failure., it's a miracle they found it. Hope it stays fixed.

This was my first 'murican car since I was a teenager. I keep reminding myself that I paid 50% of M3 costs for a car that hung with an M3 in the hands of Randy Pobst. There's got to be a tradeoff somewhere, and it appears to be in the crap shoot that the dealer calls "service".

I feel your pain, I made it through hyperfest only to throw many different codes a couple weekends later at a trackdaze event. $700 in reg fees and insurance down the drain for four lousy underpowered laps at VIR. Got passed by a spec miata on the back straight. No power at all. And still no solution in sight.
 

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Wow Vince! That is an off the wall one indeed. Glad it got discovered before it caused anymore problems.
 

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At this point, you may be wondering "Where has Sky Render and the Evil Pony been?" and "Why is there a picture of a defective, hanging-chad 2000 Presidential voting ballot in this build thread?" and "Why was Firefly REALLY canceled?"

I shall answer 2 of these 3 questions.

So, to recap. At the end of May--right before Hyperfest--two codes popped up on my Mustang: P0012 and P0014. This occurred with highway-speed stumbling and a lack of low-end power. Silly me took it to those dimwitted douchebags at Hagerstown Ford who did nothing. After taking it to a competent dealer, the Mustang had a VCT solenoid replaced. This did not fix the problem.

I picked up my car for a week to use for pictures and such at our wedding, then took it back to the dealer. Next, the dealer replaced both phasers, oil control units, solenoids, and wiring pigtails on the passenger-side head. The issue still remained.

The master tech working on my car contacted Ford's Tech Support Hotline, who proceeded to run him through a battery of tests on everything electronic on my Mustang, even though the tech told them that the oil pressure on my engine seemed too high. And by "too high," I mean 115 PSI.

Now, you will recall that oil is used to advance and retard the cams in VCT. Indeed, a failing oil pump (causing low oil pressure) can cause VCT issues at idle and low RPMs. However, my VCT issues occured at highway speeds, when there should be plenty of oil pressure...

To make a long story somewhat shorter, the tech finally found the culprit when he was removing an external oil pressure gauge from the rear of the passenger-side head. He located a "piece of silicon" lodged in there. He removed it, cleaned the head, flushed the oil once again, and...

...Voila. The oil pressure was back to normal, and the VCT functioned perfectly, and there were no more fault codes, and Firefly was back on the air. Well, scratch that last one, damn it.

After consulting with engineering support, it was... admitted by them that there were "rare issues" with factory headgaskets on the early 5.0s where the holes for oil passages were not quite punched all the way through, leaving a "hanging chad" that could later detach and wreak havoc in a cylinder head's oiling passages. I was fortunate that my tech was able to discover this before he had to pull the entire cylinder head.

So, the Mustang is back in the garage, but I am rather unhappy at the tech support that Ford provided to the service department. If they knew of this issue, why the FRAK didn't they say something sooner? It's bloody unacceptable that I pay over $30,000 for a car with a warranty that ends up sitting at a dealer for almost a month and a half whilst Ford's supposed experts hem and haw and wonder what the problem might be.

But enough of that. I'm just glad I have my car back! :driver:

I dont know how the ford guys didnt know about that.Common problem (I believe i mentioned it in your other thread)Should have brought it to my shop.LOL


Glad it is finally fixed
 

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It's those stupid little simple issues that can give you fits. I had an issue with a CPS connector that gave my mechanic an I fits for more than 6 months; once the cause was found (and it was found to be a common issue), the fix was fairly simple.

BTW, there was no way to arrange to get Firefly back on the air? Damn. You are beginning to damage my calm.
 

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Yes, I wore Sparco shoes to my wedding.

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And my wife actually made a Mustang garter belt (that I didn't know of until after the ceremony).

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Carbon fiber all the things!

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Congrats on getting married. Pics look great with the car. My wife and I were going to do something similar with my Harley but due to work schedules and potographer hours we couldn't make it happen.
 

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Great pics – What / Who comes first – Wife or most things Mechanical addiction? Remember – This is a public forum. LOL
With some of my acquaintances, it is a toss up. One even stated that it was cheaper to get married because live in help was to expensive. After he got divorced, his attitude changed. He now states that it is much, much cheaper to rent them.
My wife is a keeper – I just hope she will continue to want to keep me with my addiction.
 

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