Where does my MAF get 12v power from?

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Ok, my car has been going into limp mode and then shortly after I get a P0102 code, being the only code I receive. I'm assuming it's my MAF (I have a Saleen Velocity MAF). Before I spend the time to find it first of all, then dish out the $200 or so, I want to check everything out first as to not waist my money and the MAF not even being my problem.

First im checking to see if I have any breaks in the wires. I checked the continuity from the MAF signal and MAF signal return coming from the PCM, those are fine. Ground is also fine. The problem I am having is with the 12v power wire. I probed the wire at the MAF with the key on, engine off, and I was receiving no power from that wire. So one of two things, I'm doing something wrong, or I have a break in that wire. I went ahead and looked at the wire diagrams with no luck with continuity, but I want to double check something first

I looked at this diagram http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=40&viewfile=Electronic%20Engine%20Controls%20-%204.6L.pdf

According to this diagram the power wire belongs to circuit 391 which also belongs to the same circuit that the VCT's and EVAP (among other things) are getting power from. Those components are all getting the 12v with power on, I even verified that they belonged to the same circuit by checking the continuity from their power wires. All those wires have a RD-YE color wire but my MAF power wire is VT-YE which has me confused because the diagram says it should be RD-YE.

However, I found the picture below which says that the MAF on manual transmissions has a VT-YE color and belongs to circuit 1139. This wire diagram does not have a diagram for a manual transmission.

All this brings me to some simple questions, does anyone know where my MAF is getting it's power from so I can check for continuity between the wires? Or does anyone have the diagrams for the Manual transmission that has the VT-YE wire and the 1139 circuit? Am I correct in probing the power wire with just the key on, engine off, or do I need to do something different in order to see the 12v power?

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I'll ask as I do not see it mentioned....

did you check all the intake fittings to be sure they are tight and sealed?
 

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I actually took the intake off to do a thorough check of all the couplings and made sure when I put it back on there was a good seal. Took it for a drive, same result
 

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Splice 101. Roughly over the back end of the passenger valve cover, about over the starter. Also feeds O2 sensors and VCT solenoids. Wiring diagram page 24-4 for the splice and 24-2 for the MAF.
 

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No, thats what I was referring to in my original post, the information you are giving is for an automatic transmission. I went to a friends shop today who had the correct wiring diagram for both transmissions. I dont know why ford made the difference but it looks like it is a stand alone circuit going to its own fuse...fuse #40 15amp. I'll check it out tomorrow morning. Thank you though

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I am not yet seeing anything tied to a transmission, will add my manual page for where it pulls 12v. F47 on my 09 MY, 'D' then winds up going to the Splice 101.

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No, thats what I was referring to in my original post, the information you are giving is for an automatic transmission. I went to a friends shop today who had the correct wiring diagram for both transmissions. I dont know why ford made the difference but it looks like it is a stand alone circuit going to its own fuse...fuse #40 15amp. I'll check it out tomorrow morning. Thank you though

So did you get a chance to check the voltage?
 

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Yes, it was fuse #40. It was out slightly so I took it out, put it back in and bam, getting the 12 volts. I'll take it for a test drive tomorrow to see if the code comes back but I'm pretty positive that was the problem.

To Wabirch, if you read the wire diagram I showed on my last post, it shows the power wire which is VIO/YEL going from the MAF straight to the BEC to fuse #40. Only wire, no splices in between. On the first picture shortly after the MAF it has a line and a split, on the right it has the red wire and the left goes the violet wire. On the line where the two wires split there is a A/T On the right and a M/T on the left. The M/T means it is a manual transmission and will only have the violet wire where as the A/T means it's a automatic and will have a red wire going to the splice location. It's weird because none of those go to the transmission so I don't know why ford changed the wiring between the two. Oh well, just a heads up for anyone searching these forums
 
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The difference in the diagrams for the transmissions are easy to explain.
In a manual harness, the vio/yel wire goes direct to the maf connector.
In auto, the wire runs from elsewhere and is a red wire, running to the maf connector.

The diagram just shows that there is a difference in the harness based on the trans type, not that there is a splice or connection to the trans or anything like that.
 

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I understand that, I'm just not sure why ford changed the harness between the two instead of having the same harness in each vehicle. Along with that why they used the different transmissions to distinguish between the two.
 

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