2013 track pack car

[tbrock]

I'm considering trading my 2007 Shelby GT for a 2013 5.0 track pack with Recaro's. Drove it and love the interior. I will use the car for a DD and a Lapping/HPDE car. Can anyone tell me what the difference is regarding the track pack suspension compared to stock GT and/or Boss 302.

The first thing that struck me was the need to get the car down 1" to 1.5" as it sits up compared to my SGT. Are the shocks/struts different from a regular GT?
Tires are on the small side so that needs to change. Are the track pack wheels 19x9 or 19x8.5 couldn't find that in the Ford brochure.

Just trying to understand what the differences are from a suspension standpoint on the track pack car. I know it has the 3.73's, torsen, B302 rad, oil cooler, and Brembos.

Thanks

 

[sholzer]

Track pack wheels are 19x9. The springs are shocks are a little bit stiffer than a stock GT but nowhere near where they need to be, so plan on changing those out if you want a good bit better performance than a stock GT.

 

[tbrock]

Thanks that is exactly what I was looking for someone with a track pack that uses it on the track. Have you made any mods to the suspension? I was looking at Steeda springs/sway bars with a Whiteline watts, and koni's or tokicos, bmr lca relo brackets, billet lca, steeda uca.

Still on the fence about selling the SGT as I've got so much $$ in it. Probably cheaper in the long run just to upgrade the seats to Recaros and put a watts under it again and call it good.

 

[warpig12354]

I really like your car and it sounds like you have a lot of time and effort into it. I would keep it.

 

[jayman33]

I put the Koni Yellows, Hotchkis sport springs (1.0 front/ 1.6 rear) with ground control CC plates (-+ 3 degrees camber adjustment). Hotchkis LCA's and BMR relo brackets. Probably going to pick up the BMR billet LCA's to try them out, might be overkill but I don't care.... they're pretty sweet. Picking up a Whiteline Watts link as soon as they're off backorder.

 

[OkieSnuffBox]

I was under the impression the track pack cars weren't different, just got the Brembo package suspension upgrade (whatever that is).

So Brembo package cars should have the same suspension as Track Pack cars (both have Brembos) vs the non-Brembo cars.

As mentioned though, too soft for proper track work. But it's great for a DD/Highway eating road trip machine. I've got a track car for now, so my '13 track pack car is staying stock.

 

[HEMI LOL]

I was under the impression the track pack cars weren't different, just got the Brembo package suspension upgrade (whatever that is).

So Brembo package cars should have the same suspension as Track Pack cars (both have Brembos) vs the non-Brembo cars.

As mentioned though, too soft for proper track work. But it's great for a DD/Highway eating road trip machine. I've got a track car for now, so my '13 track pack car is staying stock.

this is incorrect. the TP cars are much different suspension wise compared to a stock GT.

 

[Random Asshole]

They're different according to sources I've seen, but good enough to leave alone? I don't think so. I've been in/driven track pack cars and the springs and shocks are nothing to write home about.

 

[tbrock]

I really like your car and it sounds like you have a lot of time and effort into it. I would keep it.

That's kind of where I'm at right now. We'll see but I'm leaning on keeping it. For the money I'd put into a new 5.0 I can add a few other items to mine that will make it better and safer at the track than it already is.

 

[HEMI LOL]

They're different according to sources I've seen, but good enough to leave alone? I don't think so. I've been in/driven track pack cars and the springs and shocks are nothing to write home about.

id agree with you. the spring rates seem ok, but the damping is junk. with a set of Konis/and springs id assume it much better.

 

[OkieSnuffBox]

this is incorrect. the TP cars are much different suspension wise compared to a stock GT.

I haven't been able to find anything conclusive that says the Track Pack cars have a different suspension than the Brembo cars?

The Brembo package cars come with "unique ESC settings and aggressive suspension tuning" along with the 19x9s and 255/40s and of course the Brembo's.

The Track Pack cars get the same wheels/Brembo's (but with the BOSS/GT 500 pad material) and unique ESC tuning module.


I took this too mean, essentially, Track pack cars are the Brembo pack + 3.73 with Torsen and finned cover, BOSS 302 Radiator/oil cooler, strut bar still with the Brembo suspension.

The only thing else I can find on Track Pack cars is "unique front corner modules"........maybe saying the front struts are different? Or is that the strut brace?

Maybe someone could look up part numbers between them?

 

[sholzer]

From my understanding, track pack has the same suspension setup as the brembo cars which is different than a stock GT.

As far as my car, I have koni yellows, eibach pro-kit springs, and I just put on a set of whiteline sways. I plan on eventually doing a watts link, but it has to be put on the back-burner until I have more funds.

+1 to keeping the SGT and doing some worthwhile mods on it. If you were to switch, the biggest reason IMO would be for the 5.0. The TP suspension needs work still to be good on track, so it's not a deciding factor IMO

 

[Random Asshole]

The only thing else I can find on Track Pack cars is "unique front corner modules"

I'm reading that as a fancy way to say "Upper strut mounts from the GT500". Just a guess.

Look at it this way:
Replacing shocks and springs on Mustangs have been the norm since...the entire existence of humanity? But, think of everything else you DON'T have to replace on the track pack car. Brembos, Torsen, and Recaros from the factory? Not to mention over 400hp naturally aspirated?

That's making life for corner carving Mustang enthusiasts easier than ever in my book.

 

[sholzer]

Look at it this way:
Replacing shocks and springs on Mustangs have been the norm since...the entire existence of humanity? But, think of everything else you DON'T have to replace on the track pack car. Brembos, Torsen, and Recaros from the factory? Not to mention over 400hp naturally aspirated? .

+1 except track pack cars do not come with recaros, the recaros are still a seperate option.

 

[fun4me]

Dont forget the boss radiator and oil cooler...

 

[Department Of Boost]

+1 except track pack cars do not come with recaros, the recaros are still a seperate option.

And still Waaaaaaaaaay over priced IMHO. The Recaro’s look cool and offer a little more lateral support but they are in no way a “track seat”. Even if you are going relatively slow. For the same money that the Recaro option costs you can get some fantastic seats (or seat, you only really need one for the track. Make the passenger hold on).

Granted if you go with anything but the OEM seats you will loose the air bags though.

As far as the suspension goes the Track Pack/Brembo/BOSS stuff is only ho hum out of the box. Good for “spirited” street driving but nowhere near what is needed for even slow laps at the track. And if you put more aggressive tires on the car (which you will need for the track) then the suspension will be even less up to the task.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Dont forget the boss radiator

Waaaaaaaaaay over priced. There are PLENTY of good aftermarket radiators that cool better and cost less out there. Or some that cost about the same and are a LOT bigger.

 

[fun4me]

Waaaaaaaaaay over priced. There are PLENTY of good aftermarket radiators that cool better and cost less out there. Or some that cost about the same and are a LOT bigger.

How is it overpriced, if its included in the TP. Forget about the struts/springs, everything else you get in the TP is a bargain. And under a full factory warranty. I'm not sure, but not having airbags is probably frowned upon by the insurance companies. So the recaros are the best option for a car that will be driven on the street.

 

[claudermilk]

I took this too mean, essentially, Track pack cars are the Brembo pack + 3.73 with Torsen and finned cover, BOSS 302 Radiator/oil cooler, strut bar still with the Brembo suspension.

That's basically my understanding of the difference. The Brembo package comes with the strut bar.

While the Recaro seats might not be a full-blown track seat, IMHO they are a pretty good compromise for a street/autox/track car. I am happy with mine and was actually surprised with them at the one autocross I've gotten to so far. They held me in place better than I anticipated.

 

[Random Asshole]

+1 except track pack cars do not come with recaros, the recaros are still a seperate option.

This is true. But for the OP's purpose of a daily driven corner carver, they fit the bill and are priced well when compared to a good set of RECLINING buckets.