Eibach Multi Pro R2

[sheizasosay]

LOL! WTF is going on? Eibach contracts KW to make their dampers. KW turns around and contracts Koni to make them? Why don't Eibach just skip the middle man and go straight to Koni? And if the guy that founded KW used to make Koni's, I'm sure he could duplicate a koni if he wanted to. Must be cheaper to spec it out at Koni than for KW to make it. So what does KW do? Make the housings, pick the springs and requisition certain damping? I know they didn't make their camber plates for the KW CS'.

 

[csamsh]

LOL! WTF is going on? Eibach contracts KW to make their dampers. KW turns around and contracts Koni to make them? Why don't Eibach just skip the middle man and go straight to Koni? And if the guy that founded KW used to make Koni's, I'm sure he could duplicate a koni if he wanted to. Must be cheaper to spec it out at Koni than for KW to make it. So what does KW do? Make the housings, pick the springs and requisition certain damping? I know they didn't make their camber plates for the KW CS'.

KW's stuff is their own, but I'm willing to bet it's highly derivative of Koni, or, like Terry said, "pretty much a Koni"

 

[Department Of Boost]

LOL! WTF is going on? Eibach contracts KW to make their dampers. KW turns around and contracts Koni to make them? Why don't Eibach just skip the middle man and go straight to Koni? And if the guy that founded KW used to make Koni's, I'm sure he could duplicate a koni if he wanted to. Must be cheaper to spec it out at Koni than for KW to make it. So what does KW do? Make the housings, pick the springs and requisition certain damping? I know they didn't make their camber plates for the KW CS'.

I'm sure some stuff is "outsourced" and other stuff is done in house depending on the "spec" that a certain damper is being set up to. For example, I herad that Eibach got their coilovers from KW except the R2's which are done in house.

The aftermarket damper business isn't as big as you would think. It's a pretty small world. There is really very little demand for cars. Motorcycles on the other hand a company can sell a LOT of dampers for. Bike guys love $1000 shocks, but of course they only need one.

If I remember correctly Ohlins USA sold bike-car dampers on a scale of 50:1 (one being a set) or something like that. When they sell that many dampers they can afford to be a lot more specific with the designs/setups (which they even get wrong sometimes) and do everything in house.

 

[sheizasosay]

KW's stuff is their own, but I'm willing to bet it's highly derivative of Koni, or, like Terry said, "pretty much a Koni"

I'm sure some stuff is "outsourced" and other stuff is done in house depending on the "spec" that a certain damper is being set up to. For example, I herad that Eibach got their coilovers from KW except the R2's which are done in house.

The aftermarket damper business isn't as big as you would think. It's a pretty small world. There is really very little demand for cars. Motorcycles on the other hand a company can sell a LOT of dampers for. Bike guys love $1000 shocks, but of course they only need one.

If I remember correctly Ohlins USA sold bike-car dampers on a scale of 50:1 (one being a set) or something like that. When they sell that many dampers they can afford to be a lot more specific with the designs/setups (which they even get wrong sometimes) and do everything in house.

I hear you. It was just sounding like a goat rope. Like "hey guys you're never gonna believe this but, I peeled off my Eibach sticker and under that was a KW sticker and then I peeled that up and underneath was a Koni sticker, then I noticed that Klaus Wohlfarth had signed both the Koni and the KW sticker".

 

[Department Of Boost]

I hear you. It was just sounding like a goat rope. Like "hey guys your never gonna believe this but, I peeled off my Eibach sticker and under that was a KW sticker and then I peeled that up and underneath was a Koni sticker, then I noticed that Klaus Wohlfarth had signed both the Koni and the KW sticker".

And under that it said Made In China.

 

[o2sys]

And under that it said Made In China.

Which is all produced by BC Racing

 

[csamsh]

Which is all produced by BC Racing

c-c-c-c-combo breaker!!!

 

[Ike]

I got my R2 coilovers in the mail today.
Picture requests or any requests?

I may end up installing everything before my watts link comes in from Whiteline... Backordered two months... Like the R2s were... But still no sign of them.
So when Vorshlag's camber plates come in then a very long list of suspension mods will be installed and I'll do a full review in a new thread an link everything for reference.

 

[Department Of Boost]

I got my R2 coilovers in the mail today. Requests?

FreeBird man!

 

[sheizasosay]

c-c-c-c-combo breaker!!!

Haha! Nice one! Good ole Killer Instinct.

 

[Ike]

FreeBird man!

http://youtu.be/qr3dWscslo8

 

[Department Of Boost]

Haha! Nice one! Good ole Killer Instinct.

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That was my favorite game ever. Last time I looked they went for pretty big money.

And I wouldn't mind having the Starship Troopers Pinball game either.

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[sheizasosay]

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I love Black Orchid's boobs. That's how I knew the graphics were really coming along.

Edit- and her round butt.

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[Arustik]

I've messaged them back with what you suggested. The noises are becoming super annoying. I'll try tightening the hex nut at the top as well (csamsh suggested), tough to get in there with my socket though because the camber adjustment aligns the nut within a few mm of strut tower hole cutout.

Alright so the noises are gone after speaking with John at MM for about 45 minutes on the phone (great advice BTW).

Apparently there are 2 types of camber plates that MM makes for the Eibach kit.

If you order the camber plates from MM then they will already be modified to run with the Eibachs. If you get them elsewhere (AM - where I got them from) they are made to be run with the stock suspension.

You will need to by the conversion kit to get rid of your noise which comes from the upper perch not rotating with the spring when giving steering inputs: http://www.maximummotorsports.com/C...o-R1R2-with-MM-CC-Plates-2005-2010-P1379.aspx

Hope this helps everyone else. Good to know the tender spring placement had nothing to do with noises. Leave your tenders on the bottom!

 

[Jack Hidley]

To clarify the above post:

There is one c/c plate that MM makes for the Eibach R1/R2 kits. This is the MM5CC-5.

If you already have either of the standard MM S197 c/c plates on your Mustang and you purchase the R1/R2 struts, then you only need to purchase a c/c plate conversion kit. The MM5CO-8.

Either of these products can be purchased from MM or any of our dealers.

 

[Arustik]

^^ Yes sir, thanks!