New engine build

[Department Of Boost]

Why you did this? If it's OK to ask.

I either didn't torque the bolt correctly (unlikely) or something goofy happened. I noticed the belt was trying to walk and tracked it down to the balancer coming off (about 1.5-2mm). I stuck my finger in there and no balancer bolt. I called my tuner the next day, he took a good hard look around and found the bolt in his lot outside of the dyno cell. It came out there. I had been beating on the car for a week at that point.

Whoops

 

[05stroker]

Just jump the chain a tooth then go back with the TFS

17*-8*= 9*, is that what you are getting at?

 

[lito]

Just jump the chain a tooth then go back with the TFS

Oh, so you have to get two parts to achieve what you can basically achieve with only one, ok.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Oh, so you have to get two parts to achieve what you can basically achieve with only one, ok.

Lol I simply wasn't aware they made 10 degree lockouts.

Of course they are only a two position part, where as the gears are a 9 position part.

Lito, you would be the guy to ask this but do they make any cam chain sprockets without the phasar? Seems like if you were doing lockouts eliminating the phasar altogether would save some rotating mass

 

[lito]

Lol I simply wasn't aware they made 10 degree lockouts.

Of course they are only a two position part, where as the gears are a 9 position part.

Lito, you would be the guy to ask this but do they make any cam chain sprockets without the phasar? Seems like if you were doing lockouts eliminating the phasar altogether would save some rotating mass

Well, the closest thing was the Paschal phasers that I know of, they still weight a lot (but are lighter if I am not wrong, I can compare as I still have a good set around) you could probably mod and weld a set of stockers but the biggest thing is that you need to keep the reluctor and as is how it is I don't know how much you can actually save there, a set of something like the 2V engines had would be nice though.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Yea the reluctor doesn't weigh all that much though. Not compared to the phasar body

 

[crownaviation]

Yea the reluctor doesn't weigh all that much though. Not compared to the phasar body

At 3600 rpm it weighs a bunch lol

 

[05stroker]

Well, the closest thing was the Paschal phasers that I know of, they still weight a lot (but are lighter if I am not wrong, I can compare as I still have a good set around) you could probably mod and weld a set of stockers but the biggest thing is that you need to keep the reluctor and as is how it is I don't know how much you can actually save there, a set of something like the 2V engines had would be nice though.

Show him the pics of you last attempt at using the Paschal Phasers...

 

[Dubstep Shep]

At 3600 rpm it weighs a bunch lol

True, but it can't be eliminated. I try not to worry about things I can't change.

The phasar, on the other hand, is unnecessary when locked out. So that's something to put some thought into.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Show him the pics of you last attempt at using the Paschal Phasers...

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't do it!!!!!

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Show him the pics of you last attempt at using the Paschal Phasers...

Lol I saw them. Nasty stuff.

I'm just surprised no one makes a solid gear/reluctor with no adjustment and no phasar. It's not like it's and terrible complicated part. Far less so than the phasar.

 

[05stroker]

Lol I saw them. Nasty stuff.

I'm just surprised no one makes a solid gear/reluctor with no adjustment and no phasar. It's not like it's and terrible complicated part. Far less so than the phasar.

And I have a custom crank support to not damage my front main with the Procharger, along with a custom Strange rear brake setup, its not for the masses. Too easy to just lock the stock parts where you need them. I have the Livernois lock outs and I could make anything I want. Just saying...

 

[BruceH]

It's too bad the V10 sprockets don't fit. In the end it's not too big of a deal to lock them out.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

And I have a custom crank support to not damage my front main with the Procharger, along with a custom Strange rear brake setup, its not for the masses. Too easy to just lock the stock parts where you need them. I have the Livernois lock outs and I could make anything I want. Just saying...

That's kind of my point... you have a ton of custom stuff, and while the benefits of eliminating the phasar are small, the effort is likely a lot less than you've put into a lot of other stuff.

Shoot, someone ship me a phasar and I'll get something drawn up in solidworks hahaha.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Actually, check that. I just remembered I have some used ones sitting in my other apartment.

 

[05stroker]

Actually, check that. I just remembered I have some used ones sitting in my other apartment.

Get to work! LOL

I like shinny shit!

 

[Department Of Boost]

Get to work! LOL

I like shinny shit!

Drawing them is the easy part. Figuring out how to get them made where they can be reasonably affordable is the trick.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Drawing them is the easy part. Figuring out how to get them made where they can be reasonably affordable is the trick.

I agree, reverse engineering a drawing is easy.

But to start, screw "reasonably affordable." I wouldn't call the R spec reasonably affordable, but I'm still one of the first in line, eating Ramen and scraping together pennies to get it. That's what being the best at something is; never compromising that position for anyrhing, including costs

I'm making these for myself, not to make money. If I were trying to run a business like you that would change things.

That said, from a manufacturing standpoint, they wouldn't be any harder to make than the phasars. They're less complicated. Stamping, cutting, and grinding gears is nothing new. I could have a sprocket manufacturer crank one out easily enough.

The issue is getting the reluctor wheel on correctly and getting the material specs correct. That's one of the hardest things about reverse engineering; material composition.

 

[Department Of Boost]

I wouldn't call the R spec reasonably affordable.

Don't confuse reasonably affordable with inexpensive. The R-spec is very reasonably priced for what it is/does/what is included. Very reasonable.

Inexpensive it is not.

A Z06 Corvette is the same concept. It is very reasonably priced considering what it can do compared to the other supercars. Very reasonable.

Inexpensive it is not.

I was looking at those gears as a "product". And making enough of them to make them "affordable" would be tough. But I get where you are coming from 100%. I have all sorts of one off stuff that is near priceless. If that is the direction you want to go with them I applaud you.....and will need you to make two sets. I'll need some too.

If you need any input on them look me up.

Anyone know why they V-10 sprockets won't fit? maybe it would be a lot more cost effective to mod those to work?

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Fair enough. I'll grab the phasars and my measuring tools when I go back this weekend. That'll get me started