Anyone know anything about this turbo kit?

[rford426]

And a little brutal honesty is if you can't afford to fix it, you can't really afford to buy it. Its the reason there is no form of F/I on my ride.

I completely understand but what I am saying this way I can go forged the same time i got FI instead of getting a 5k kit then waiting and praying I don't throw a rod untill I have the money to do forged internals....I will have the eboost2 and am sure the wastegate will last a few months till it can be replaced along with a bigger I/C. My original plan was fab my own kit up like willy but I think the on 3 kit will make the whole ordeal less stressful i was already set on a master power turbo anyway... I am waiting to have a bout 6-7k so I can go forged and get this on 3 kit and stay on a safe tune low boost till i am comfortable with it...I am in noo rush at all

 

[Bobby]

every thing on 3 has said is true. i have talked to him a lot on the phone and he is a bunch of help and backs his stuff up. i had a oil line with a bad crimp in the end and leaked just a little i contacted him and he had a new one to me in 3 days. that is great customer service and that is why i back his kit and him no matter how much yall bash him or the kit.

 

[rford426]

^ I talked to him as well when I first saw it pop up he was very helpful and answered any question I had...

 

[PUNISHERSTANG]

ive made a turbo kit for a 5.0 out of parts from a junk yard and ebay for less that 600 bucks so im sure this kit will hold up haha. the market needs some less expensive(notice i didnt say cheap) turbo kits for those of us that dont care to be 10 time super drag racing champions. 3500 dollars for a non intercooled vortech setup?? its a supercharger and a plastic pipe with air filter what r and d did that take? and a 5k for a tuner hellion kit?? its a pile of pipes, a turbo charger, and an intercooler. come on people where not working on a space ship here. im sure some day when my car is long paid off i will make a turbo kit for it too because i refuse to pay the rediculous markup

 

[AJ]

ive made a turbo kit for a 5.0 out of parts from a junk yard and ebay for less that 600 bucks so im sure this kit will hold up haha. the market needs some less expensive(notice i didnt say cheap) turbo kits for those of us that dont care to be 10 time super drag racing champions. 3500 dollars for a non intercooled vortech setup?? its a supercharger and a plastic pipe with air filter what r and d did that take? and a 5k for a tuner hellion kit?? its a pile of pipes, a turbo charger, and an intercooler. come on people where not working on a space ship here. im sure some day when my car is long paid off i will make a turbo kit for it too because i refuse to pay the rediculous markup

I am now open to the On3 kit, but in defense to cost of the other kits. The is a cost for the engineering, research, and development of the kits. Remember that.

 

[US-1]

the market needs some less expensive(notice i didnt say cheap) turbo kits for those of us that dont care to be 10 time super drag racing champions.

Is that a shot?

I have no problems with companies selling their parts cheaper. They obviously know what they're worth.

 

[rford426]

This could get good...

 

[pqtiii]

Not to change the subject (my wife says I do it well), but why does everyone talk shit about the STS systems??? I bought the twin set up 2 years ago, put it on my car in a weekend and performs pretty good to me. With no other mods to the stock (engine & 5spd)drivetrain @4800 ft elevation, some 9.5in slicks , and 9PSI I ran a 11.92 last weekend. And I still don't know how to drive the car.

 

[US-1]

Because my twin system ran 10.88 at 128 on 8 psi at 2100 ft with an automatic, stock engine, and 3.31 gears.

Last time mine was dyno'd it made 477/541 on 8 psi at 10 degrees timing. There was an STS-equipped Mustang on the dyno opposite my car and it was set at 11 psi and 14 degrees timing. 455/490.

I can talk all the shit I want about the STS system.

 

[pqtiii]

You should of tuned his car for him, since you do make more HP there fore you know more about making hp... We all know that these TT kits can make well over 700hp. It only matters how far you welling to push the guts. Kind of pushing that "stock" block aren't you?

pt

 

[SilentScope]

08nasty had his on3p kit dyno'd yesterday

The dyno got my car done early guys. On 8psi all else stock 451hp and he said somewhere in the 470 range tq he couldn't remember the exact number I'm gonnna go get it before school.

Im very impressed to say the least.

I think its a good kit as far as performing on a stock motor.

 

[one eyed willy]

I can talk all the shit I want

whats new? lol

 

[Bobby]

lol

 

[US-1]

You should of tuned his car for him, since you do make more HP there fore you know more about making hp... We all know that these TT kits can make well over 700hp. It only matters how far you welling to push the guts. Kind of pushing that "stock" block aren't you?

pt

Actually....I put over 9000 miles on it including a full season of index racing (you did notice the "World Champion" thingy in the sig....didn't you?) with over 230 runs on the stock shortblock. No problems. If that dickweed in the jacked up four wheel drive turd hadn't pulled a Bo/Luke Duke stunt at the intersection I'd probably still have it in the car.

At 8 psi it was fun, fast, and dependable.

 

[Bullitt357]

ive made a turbo kit for a 5.0 out of parts from a junk yard and ebay for less that 600 bucks so im sure this kit will hold up haha. the market needs some less expensive(notice i didnt say cheap) turbo kits for those of us that dont care to be 10 time super drag racing champions. 3500 dollars for a non intercooled vortech setup?? its a supercharger and a plastic pipe with air filter what r and d did that take? and a 5k for a tuner hellion kit?? its a pile of pipes, a turbo charger, and an intercooler. come on people where not working on a space ship here. im sure some day when my car is long paid off i will make a turbo kit for it too because i refuse to pay the rediculous markup

I'm sure Hellion, PowerHouse, THP, etc could lower their pricing but I doubt if they're willing to sellout. The only way you get a less expensive (read CHEAP) kit is by paying non-livable wages(China), using cheap knock-off components, investing little if any into R&D. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if On3 makes more per turbo kit than the other legitimate companies. It is absolutely amazing how cheap Chinese products are including shipping. They probably pay less than $100 for the turbo, $10 for that bypass valve, and $25 for that wastegate. They invest very little into r&d (why should they when they can just copy another kit). That's not a business model to be proud of nor a business that would get a cent from me.

 

[PUNISHERSTANG]

sd no i wasnt taking a shot at you! if i wanted to do what your doing i would be using the same kit you used, but for the majority of folks who dont go to the track much and just want a more powerful car a 1800 dollar turbo kit is more reasonable. i personally dont see anything in that kit that could go wrong that wouldnt go wrong with any other kit. i just get tired of people on the internet who have never fabricated or used anything but there wallet to build a car putting the kibosh on someone trying to save a buck and saying "you got enough money to do it right the second time??". Just like the thread about putting your own supercharger kit together. give me a freaking break, people with built motors and high dollar turbo kits paint the track with oil and forged parts all the time. tune the car and leave the boost set and see how long it lasts. even if you have to replace the damn engine if you can do the work yourself you still wont be at the price of the "tuner" kits

 

[Bullitt357]

sd no i wasnt taking a shot at you! if i wanted to do what your doing i would be using the same kit you used, but for the majority of folks who dont go to the track much and just want a more powerful car a 1800 dollar turbo kit is more reasonable. i personally dont see anything in that kit that could go wrong that wouldnt go wrong with any other kit. i just get tired of people on the internet who have never fabricated or used anything but there wallet to build a car putting the kibosh on someone trying to save a buck and saying "you got enough money to do it right the second time??". Just like the thread about putting your own supercharger kit together. give me a freaking break, people with built motors and high dollar turbo kits paint the track with oil and forged parts all the time. tune the car and leave the boost set and see how long it lasts. even if you have to replace the damn engine if you can do the work yourself you still wont be at the price of the "tuner" kits

Cheap turbos fail. Cheap wastegates fail. Cheap bypass valves fail. Cheap piping NOT welded by certified welders can fail. Cheap oil feed lines can fail. Yeah, you're right. I don't see anything that could fail in that kit either.

 

[Kankakee]

08NastyGT also made that power on 18* timing. SD made his power on 10*, correct? Is that not kind of pushing it for pump gas for the stock shortblock?

 

[PUNISHERSTANG]

I'm sure Hellion, PowerHouse, THP, etc could lower their pricing but I doubt if they're willing to sellout. The only way you get a less expensive (read CHEAP) kit is by paying non-livable wages(China), using cheap knock-off components, investing little if any into R&D. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if On3 makes more per turbo kit than the other legitimate companies. It is absolutely amazing how cheap Chinese products are including shipping. They probably pay less than $100 for the turbo, $10 for that bypass valve, and $25 for that wastegate. They invest very little into r&d (why should they when they can just copy another kit). That's not a business model to be proud of nor a business that would get a cent from me.

hellion, powerhouse, and thp wont lower there prices because people have been conditioned to pay that much for a kit. i wont be fooled by internet hype about how quality there parts are and all the blah blah. im sure they are fine parts but your paying for a name. if it bugs you buy the 1800 dollar kit and upgrade the bypass valve and wastegate. the turbo is fine for low boost levels.

 

[Bobby]

bullitt357 you are wrong on several things for one as stated several times he made this kit off of a 3v car that was in his shop. read a little and you will see that he wrote that earlier. and another is he will upgrade any part of the kit you want like turbo wg and bov as he stated in his post so if you go back and read you will see. but i will give you the benefit of the doubt and just think that you didnt read it and just jumped to conclusions like others that havent read, sean, or even installed this kit.

sd's kit was a twin turbo kit also. and who knows what else was done to either car other then the turbo kits.

08NastyGT also made that power on 18* timing. SD made his power on 10*, correct? Is that not kind of pushing it for pump gas for the stock shortblock?