FRPP intake manifold...is this normal?

[TonyN]

I am sorry, but that shit is not NORMAL, IMHO!

There are thousands of different plastic/composite intakes on many vehicles these days and you will not see any of them flexing like this. If this where on my car I would most certainly remove it and get my money back and go a different route. I would not like the fact a paid all that $ for a sub par product. These intakes are just coming out. People are just getting them installed. So calims are being made that no one has had any "issues" with them so far. Lets see how they are holding up a few years down the road...? After the thing has flexes a few hundred thousand times.

With the injectors moving like that, I am sure it is (minorly) changing the degree in which the fuel sprays into the intake ports/valves. I don't like that.

Regardless, everyone has there own opinions. Everyone is entitled to them, but I sure would not be comfortable if it where my car doing that.

I am curious if Matt D's prototype does this??

 

[19COBRA93]

With the injectors moving like that, I am sure it is (minorly) changing the degree in which the fuel sprays into the intake ports/valves. I don't like that.

LOL. That's rediculous. What if it changes it for the better?

 

[jodadejss06gt]

Ok so some aren't concerned and some are! If I put one of these on my car, it breaks, sucks a piece of plastic into my engine, it goes boom, who is responsible? If it were under positive pressure it would most likely rupture and sent pieces outward rather than inward.

 

[TonyN]

LOL. That's rediculous. What if it changes it for the better?

Then I guess that would be good thing..lol.

So you don't think they engineer injectors to spray precisely into the intake port having fuel entering the combustion chamber in a very specific way? I can't imagine have the injector spraying into the wall off intake port being a good thing..lol. Of course that is kind of extreme. I don't think there is a parameter in the tune for "Variable Fuel Injector Angle" though, lol.

Just saying...



Like I was saying, to each there own. I certainly won't be buying one. Hell, from what I am hearing I couldn't run one with the Paxton anyways. Hope it all works out for the best for everyone! I think time will tell with this situation.

 

[19COBRA93]

Of course that is kind of extreme.

Exactly.

The movement at the tip wouldn't even be measurable.

 

[Blxcklist]

Plastic + Movement = Cracking (especially in cold weather)

 

[19COBRA93]

Plastic + Movement = Cracking (especially in cold weather)

When that happens, come on back. Until then you don't know.

And I'll bet it doesn't move like that when it's cold.

 

[white05gt]

This quote from MMFF makes me laugh: "Even above this the manifold will not burst. Instead, the gasket is designed to bleed off the boost and re-seal as the boost level drops." Do you suppose that it's just the intake swelling so much that it leaks and they are playing it off as part of the design?

 

[TonyN]

Yeah I admit I am over analyzing and being anal

But in all seriousness, I still don't like the idea. If not for all the obvious reasons folks have mentioned, but what about customer satisfaction? They are saying it is "normal", it sure doesn't look normal to me and many others. Customers are complaining and it's being brushed off is it's normal. I guess we will have to see what FRPP does or if they do anything.

I have worked on thousands of cars with plastic/composite intakes and they sure don't move. If it was normal I would think all manufacturers would save a few bucks on material and make "flexible" intake manifolds.

Either way, I still think it's great to have another intake on the market. Just kind of hoping ford makes right on it or proves there will be NO harm down the road. Watching that video the OP posted just does NOT look good to me.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

wow, this is quite funny. So much speculation from people that have 0 experience. This intake has been tested for over a yr. 0 promblems have been reported and 0 failures. Why are you making a stink about something that seems, to the eye, look off yet performs perfectly, Now if there is a problem with the intake ie leaks, cracks, doesn't work, then ok bitch and throw a fit. Until then run it.

And as far as the "injector time bomb" Thats just retarded..

 

[TonyN]

IT SHOULDNT MOVE PERIOD! I had a fuel line rupture already from this thing. It looks good. But it should not move period......And while Im on it have you seen the video from the OP? Is this acceptable to you? Would you have that on your '05? NOBODY would. I just spent 4,000.00 with FRPP, is this how they retain customers? Do you think this will be my last stang and that I will never buy and modify another??? wrong..... but i may look at other vendors next go round....

wow, this is quite funny. So much speculation from people that have 0 experience. This intake has been tested for over a yr. 0 promblems have been reported and 0 failures. Why are you making a stink about something that seems, to the eye, look off yet performs perfectly, Now if there is a problem with the intake ie leaks, cracks, doesn't work, then ok bitch and throw a fit. Until then run it.

And as far as the "injector time bomb" Thats just retarded..

I could have sworn the guy I quoted did indeed have first hand experience with an issue...?

And maybe this speculation plays a role in whether or not folks such as myself actually end up having first hand experience with it. Do you have one?

 

[dalemllns]

When that happens, come on back. Until then you don't know.

And I'll bet it doesn't move like that when it's cold.

When I checked mine it was a cold start....84 degrees temp outside. I cant imagine how bad it will be for guys in 100+ heat or guys in sub freezing. MOVEMENT equals a failure in the future. I dont like to waste my money. I bought an intake I assumed would last the life of my car or as long as I have it. An impending breakage that lets just face it will happen, is not something I'm looking for. To just shrug it off and say lets wait for a failure...W T F....thats not to confident in the product. Its okay its only money, what pays their bills, lets fuck guys and not make anymore money because we screwed up and didnt fix it, and just brushed them off. I dont have much faith in the blue oval or its customer service. I swear I have owned fords since high school but right now I want to make mine a boat anchor with this crap.....


On a side note how does an intake have one pic in testing, then I get one that looks totaly different, and how is it reaching peek performance flexing around if it didnt do it on the bench in testing.....someone srewed up.....

 

[19COBRA93]

When I checked mine it was a cold start....84 degrees temp outside. ..

84 degrees is not cold. The "cold" reference was winter time type cold.

FRPP tested the crap out of this. It didn't fail, it hasn't failed, and my money says it won't fail.

 

[06GTMustang89]

i returned mine...and after hearing the FRPP guy say this is normal...im never buying a ford racing product again...that is complete bullshit they just don't want to spend the money to redesign there black lung...im going C&L and never looking back...i still can't believe that bullshit...THAT IS NOT NORMAL...period!!

There should be ZERO movement on the intake and the fuel rails shouldn't even move 1mm...end of discussion its not safe..and anyone that says that it is is a giant dumb ass and risking their life and car to a fuel accident

 

[19COBRA93]

I had a fuel line rupture already from this thing. ...

Elaborate please... Explain how your fuel line rupture was caused by this intake.

 

[Blue Meanie]

Just received a voicemail from FRPP; the company line is that this is "normal" and called "tincanning". They said that the 2000 Cobra R manifold did it too. I still don't like it.

 

[19COBRA93]

.im going C&L and never looking back...i still can't believe that bullshit...THAT IS NOT NORMAL...period!!

its not safe..and anyone that says that it is is a giant dumb ass and risking their life and car to a fuel accident

C&L will be glad to have your $799. As for me, I'll take my FRPP for $495 with a smile and never look back.

The sky is falling. You should stay inside.

 

[06GTMustang89]

Elaborate please... Explain how your fuel line rupture was caused by this intake.

WATCH MY VIDEO...after a lot of runs with this intake i can damn well see how it happens...your biased as hell since you sell these parts bro...all it takes is a alot of movement...O ring crackes...fuel starts to spray a little out...need i go further? This is a horrible product and whats even worse is the people that designed it aren't going to fix the problem...never again

 

[TonyN]

Just received a voicemail from FRPP; the company line is that this is "normal" and called "tincanning". They said that the 2000 Cobra R manifold did it too. I still don't like it.

Hmmm, "tincanning". Interesting, I thought the Cobra R intake was aluminum?

 

[06GTMustang89]

C&L will be glad to have your $799. As for me, I'll take my FRPP for $495 with a smile and never look back.

The sky is falling. You should stay inside.

at least aluminum doesn't flex like a giant black lung...your biased as fuck about this and completely ignorant of the dangers that this can cause im not going to continue arguing my point with this because if people are smart enough to see that there is something wrong about an intake moving and flexing the fuel rails that they won't buy it...im done

im happy to spend a little extra to not worry about intake flexing and couldn't careless about how happy you are with your black lung...sometimes paying more is worth it and in this case im all for it