FRPP intake manifold...is this normal?

[19COBRA93]

WATCH MY VIDEO...after a lot of runs with this intake i can damn well see how it happens...your biased as hell since you sell these parts bro...all it takes is a alot of movement...O ring crackes...fuel starts to spray a little out...need i go further? This is a horrible product and whats even worse is the people that designed it aren't going to fix the problem...never again

I've watched your video probably a dozen times at least. You can accuse me of being biased if you like, but I'm being logical. LOOK at the movement! ANY movement would be at the BOTTOM of the injector where there's no fuel pressure. NONE! Thinking this will cause a fuel leak is REDICULOUS! It's that simple.

Unbolt your fuel rail and rock it back and forth. You'll see for your self that all the movement will be at the bottom of the injector, not the top. It's not rocket science.

 

[19COBRA93]

at least aluminum doesn't flex like a giant black lung...your biased as fuck about this and completely ignorant of the dangers that this can cause im not going to continue arguing my point with this because if people are smart enough to see that there is something wrong about an intake moving and flexing the fuel rails that they won't buy it...im done

im happy to spend a little extra to not worry about intake flexing and couldn't careless about how happy you are with your black lung...sometimes paying more is worth it and in this case im all for it

Ignorance is someone mentioning fuel leak and everyone jumps on the bandwagon without actually thinking about how.

I hope you are done.

 

[dalemllns]

Elaborate please... Explain how your fuel line rupture was caused by this intake.

Driving down the road I smelled fuel, car started to miss and break up, I popped the hood and heard a hissing sound. Turned out fuel was leaking froom crossover line in center under the intake. I got a ride to autozone and bought new line and some allen wrenches, flat tip and a 13mm to remove strut tower brace and remove intake. It was split in the middle. I thought prolly a cheap ass line or faulty from factory. no issue I fixed it and moved on. Then I seen this, popped my hood and checked it for movement, sure nuff it was. I thought hell it prolly caused rubbing or stretching and ripped it. I was then really pissed. And if 799 means no movement vs 600 and shit breaking. Hell sounds like a damn good deal. If my car had burned down after all that work I would have cried like a bitch I swear. I love this car. I bought what I thought was a good part. TINCAN?? We will see I dont know what to do. They should go back and find the problem, hell they didnt even know it was there. Maybe theirs were better made and when mass production happened something changed. I mean hell the pic was one way and the actuall part was different. Dont you agree???

 

[06GTMustang89]

Ignorance is someone mentioning fuel leak and everyone jumps on the bandwagon without actually thinking about how.

I hope you are done.

fuel rail flex overtime = potential fuel leak

where there is action there is reaction

I'm just amazed that none of you have hit upon the real concern I have about these things moving AT ALL....any amount of movement. With the fuel rail moving even a 1/4" the injector o-rings are being moved in a side-to-side fashion. Injector angle and fuel rail alignment are critical in order to prevent a fuel leak where the rail "cups" over the top of the injector on the pressure side. Y'all are worried about this thing cracking when you should be worried about a fuel leak and a FIRE! Who wants to be first on that list, kids?????

On top of it all....I keep hearing "bad casting." How can you have a bad casting when these suckers are all injection molded? Every single intake will have this problem. There are also reports of the throttle body flange being too thin and moving around causing a leak.

there is nothing more that has to be said...your making yourself look like a complete ignorant ass so please continue...

 

[19COBRA93]

Driving down the road I smelled fuel, car started to miss and break up, I popped the hood and heard a hissing sound. Turned out fuel was leaking froom crossover line in center under the intake. I got a ride to autozone and bought new line and some allen wrenches, flat tip and a 13mm to remove strut tower brace and remove intake. It was split in the middle. I thought prolly a cheap ass line or faulty from factory. no issue I fixed it and moved on. Then I seen this, popped my hood and checked it for movement, sure nuff it was. I thought hell it prolly caused rubbing or stretching and ripped it.

Is it possible it got damaged when you swapped it over? It's a flexible line which will easily flex with the minimal movement of the fuel rails.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

So youre assuming that this minor movement ripped your fuel line? Really?

 

[onebadgsx]

i am deffinately waiting to see the utlimate outcome before i buy. maybe this is why the are NOT making the power expected.....

 

[19COBRA93]

fuel rail flex overtime = potential fuel leak

where there is action there is reaction



there is nothing more that has to be said...your making yourself look like a complete ignorant ass so please continue...

Only in your eyes sweetheart.

You're not seeing what I'm saying are you? And I'm ignorant?

 

[maverick46]

someone mentioned no known issues - well i never received this trouble code before if you guys forgot here it is again

-- PO191Ful Rail
S CIR RNG PER--Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance---

and car failed to start!

if it were normal I don't think error codes would be thrown.

 

[dalemllns]

Is it possible it got damaged when you swapped it over? It's a flexible line which will easily flex with the minimal movement of the fuel rails.

You are right, it is possible. I questioned my install. Though I was in no hurry to install and usally dont screw up stuff but it could have i agree. Thats why I said I thought it could also have been faulty from factory or just cheap because it was not like the hard line on the stock one. But if it was flexing and rubbing on top (were it split) because the intake is flexing under power then it wasn't my fault it was FRPP.........think about it 93...

 

[19COBRA93]

someone mentioned no known issues - well i never received this trouble code before if you guys forgot here it is again

-- PO191Ful Rail
S CIR RNG PER--Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance---

and car failed to start!

if it were normal I don't think error codes would be thrown.

There is no possible way that is related to the intake movement. Unless you have fuel spraying all over the place and losing fuel pressure, it is NOT related. You either have a bad/faulty fuel rail pressure sensor or connector, or vacuum line leading to it. But in no possible way can the intake movement throw that code. Period.

 

[dalemllns]

someone mentioned no known issues - well i never received this trouble code before if you guys forgot here it is again

-- PO191Ful Rail
S CIR RNG PER--Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance---

and car failed to start!

if it were normal I don't think error codes would be thrown.

Check your electrical connections that no dirt is in them on the regulator.....

 

[19COBRA93]

But if it was flexing and rubbing on top (were it split) because the intake is flexing under power then it wasn't my fault it was FRPP.........think about it 93...

I agree. If it was rubbing (you'd see evidence of this) then it could have caused it, but probably over a long period of time. Does that line physically touch the intake when it's installed?

 

[dalemllns]

I agree. If it was rubbing (you'd see evidence of this) then it could have caused it, but probably over a long period of time. Does that line physically touch the intake when it's installed?

not setting there on the bench...but of course I cant see underneath when its running. there is about an inch of clearence. But...take into account fuel pressure, and flex of runners and it could, prolly is rubbing.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

I really hope nobody gets hurt from this. I don't like the idea of it flexing for sure.

 

[Blxcklist]

That intake is going to crack, if you dont think so you're blind. If something PLASTIC is moving back and forth expanding and contracting its going to crack. It may be next week it may be 2 years from now, but it will happen. If you would rather spend $500 for a cheap plastic piece of shit that was made overseas over a well engineered aluminum manifold that will last 6x longer just to save $150 more power to you. As for me, and anyone else that has a brain ill go with the C&L or JPC.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

someone mentioned no known issues - well i never received this trouble code before if you guys forgot here it is again

-- PO191Ful Rail
S CIR RNG PER--Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance---

and car failed to start!

if it were normal I don't think error codes would be thrown.

aren't those sensors quite prone to failing?

 

[dalemllns]

That intake is going to crack, if you dont think so you're blind. If something PLASTIC is moving back and forth expanding and contracting its going to crack. It may be next week it may be 2 years from now, but it will happen. If you would rather spend $500 for a cheap plastic piece of shit that was made overseas over a well engineered aluminum manifold that will last 6x longer just to save $150 more power to you. As for me, and anyone else that has a brain ill go with the C&L or JPC.

I will sell you mine lol

 

[19COBRA93]

That intake is going to crack, if you dont think so you're blind. If something PLASTIC is moving back and forth expanding and contracting its going to crack. It may be next week it may be 2 years from now, but it will happen.

I think this really is what it comes down to. I personally don't think it will, but who knows really. It could, it couldn't, we won't know until it happens. And like mentioned, if it does, then everyone can righfully throw a fit.

The fuel leak thing I think is rediculous and unfounded. Aside from that, I think worries of it cracking are probably fair.

 

[dalemllns]

The fuel leak thing I think is rediculous and unfounded. Aside from that, I think worries of it cracking are probably fair.

So we've decided Im a knuckle head and screwed my own fuel line up (although I built the entire engine myself and runs fine) and its a non-related issue? Guys, let all your friends know Dale screwed it up, FRPP made an outstanding intake, no worries. Lets all go to walmart and scare little kids.......