Bolt on definition: A poll

[Mike K]

I'm sure everything about that car is absolutely badass also

 

[Germeezy3]

Shouldnt this thread be on mustangforums.com ? WTF guys, seriously?

I agree, the idiocy behind a very small amount of people on a forum dedicated to one car. That think they decide what the meaning is of a term that encompasses all modified cars.

 

[Shaffe]

Option 2. SOmething that can be done with the most basic of handtools

 

[Vxer1000]

I understand how and where a power adder is, uhhh, added. By BOLTING it ON to the engine. But like I said, the large majority of folks are going to think of a power adder as more than just a bolt on item. It's a SERIOUS power adder, unlike intake/headers/exhaust and so on. The basic bolt ons are only good for 50hp or so on 2011's. I see what you're saying though. Maybe Basic Bolt Ons should be used to describe just the typical stuff that every one does and Full Bolt Ons could be used to describe everything to include a power adder.

I could work with this.

 

[Vxer1000]

I agree, the idiocy behind a very small amount of people on a forum dedicated to one car. That think they decide what the meaning is of a term that encompasses all modified cars.

You take yourself too seriously there Sergeant Clancy. I will admit it is amusing watching you get your panties in a twist because of the opinions of a few people and your insatiable desire to police it.

 

[Germeezy3]

You take yourself too seriously there Sergeant Clancy. I will admit it is amusing watching you get your panties in a twist because of the opinions of a few people and your insatiable desire to police it.

I am laughing behind the scenes, I should thank you because I normally don't get this kind of amusement from the internet. I am thinking however that quite possibly, you are in the minority for thinking nitrous and superchargers are a bolt on.

Its very simple....bolt on cars are N/A....once you add a power adder you are no longer N/A.......you still following me?

 

[Mishri]

This all comes down to what people will commonly accept for a term. I know what i'll say has been stated but just to reiiterate:

like the LS1 guys like to say Cam only.. doesn't mean they only put a cam in there, they have exhaust, lid, all the supporting mods too. it's a way of saying no n2o.


so when people use the term bolt on they take it to be fairly easy/inexpensive mods, bolted onto the outside, intakes, exhaust throttle body, gears, etc.

power adders = forced induction, n2o.

the purpose of the term bolt on is to say it's a simple/inexpensive mod, nothing being added to push atmospheric pressure into the engine,
Maybe if you looked at possible uses of the term

n/a bolt-ons vs f/i bolt-ons, vs n/a enginework (heads, cams etc) If people used the term like that then I suppose it makes sense, but techincally everything bolts on so the term bolt on has no meaning unless we say what that meaning is.

as a group on this forum and the majority of people elsewhere say that bolt ons means no power adders, you should accept that the term bolt on cannot include f/i or n2o.

the meaning of a term or a word is defined by what the majority of people use it for, which is why the meanings of words change over time, but currently we are at that point with the term bolt on, just because you apply a always use a word incorrectly doesn't mean you are right and we should just know what you mean.

 

[Germeezy3]

This all comes down to what people will commonly accept for a term. I know what i'll say has been stated but just to reiiterate:

like the LS1 guys like to say Cam only.. doesn't mean they only put a cam in there, they have exhaust, lid, all the supporting mods too. it's a way of saying no n2o.


so when people use the term bolt on they take it to be fairly easy/inexpensive mods, bolted onto the outside, intakes, exhaust throttle body, gears, etc.

power adders = forced induction, n2o.

the purpose of the term bolt on is to say it's a simple/inexpensive mod, nothing being added to push atmospheric pressure into the engine,
Maybe if you looked at possible uses of the term

n/a bolt-ons vs f/i bolt-ons, vs n/a enginework (heads, cams etc) If people used the term like that then I suppose it makes sense, but techincally everything bolts on so the term bolt on has no meaning unless we say what that meaning.

as a group on this forum and the majority of people elsewhere say that bolt ons means no power adders, you should accept that the term bolt on cannot include f/i or n2o.

the meaning of a term or a word is defined by what the majority of people use it for, which is why the meanings of words change over time, but currently we are at that point with the term bolt on.

Very good post, where were you when I got lambasted for saying cam only as if that meant cam with no bolt ons. In order for a word or terms definition to change its new meaning would have to be embraced my the majority of people.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

So let me ask this is an intake a bolt on? (not a cai) This should be interesting.

 

[SRTthis]

im picking whats a bolt... its to loose of a term. kinda like whats a street car???

 

[Mishri]

So let me ask this is an intake a bolt on? (not a cai) This should be interesting.

Yes, most people consider an intake manifold to be a bolt on, fits the criteria of cheap, fast install, and doesn't push any atmospheric pressure (power adder), you also aren't doing any internal work on the engine.

my answer for a street car is, if it's legal for you to drive on the street, and you can drive it around town in traffic, it's a street car.

 

[ArtQ]

This all comes down to what people will commonly accept for a term. I know what i'll say has been stated but just to reiiterate:

like the LS1 guys like to say Cam only.. doesn't mean they only put a cam in there, they have exhaust, lid, all the supporting mods too. it's a way of saying no n2o.


so when people use the term bolt on they take it to be fairly easy/inexpensive mods, bolted onto the outside, intakes, exhaust throttle body, gears, etc.

power adders = forced induction, n2o.

the purpose of the term bolt on is to say it's a simple/inexpensive mod, nothing being added to push atmospheric pressure into the engine,
Maybe if you looked at possible uses of the term

n/a bolt-ons vs f/i bolt-ons, vs n/a enginework (heads, cams etc) If people used the term like that then I suppose it makes sense, but techincally everything bolts on so the term bolt on has no meaning unless we say what that meaning is.

as a group on this forum and the majority of people elsewhere say that bolt ons means no power adders, you should accept that the term bolt on cannot include f/i or n2o.

the meaning of a term or a word is defined by what the majority of people use it for, which is why the meanings of words change over time, but currently we are at that point with the term bolt on, just because you apply a always use a word incorrectly doesn't mean you are right and we should just know what you mean.

This...

im picking whats a bolt... its to loose of a term. kinda like whats a street car???

If we both have street cars and we race..and you beat me, your car is not a street car....

 

[KungFuHamster]

as a group on this forum and the majority of people elsewhere say that bolt ons means no power adders, you should accept that the term bolt on cannot include f/i or n2o.

X3!

 

[SRTthis]

If we both have street cars and we race..and you beat me, your car is not a street car....

what if i drove there and you trailered it and i still won?

 

[ArtQ]

what if i drove there and you trailered it and i still won?

I would run you over with the excuse train...

 

[VTXFrank]

I would run you over with the excuse train...

Holy shit. I just ROFLMAO reading that. I'm sitting in a very quiet Doctors office too. You can imagine the looks I just got.

 

[fdjizm]

Very good post, where were you when I got lambasted for saying cam only as if that meant cam with no bolt ons.

Defying the english language and the dictionary doesn't make you or the GM guys look any smarter.

Should I start "muffler only" for my car?

 

[3vs197]

Some people take the term "bolt on" too literally. Its not referring to how its attached to the vehicle, its just a term.

Like LS cars saying cam only, some of you guys take that way to literally. It doesn't just mean it ONLY has a camshaft as a mod, it means the heads are stock and no power adders.

that is all.

 

[fdjizm]

Like LS cars saying cam only, some of you guys take that way to literally. It doesn't just mean it ONLY has a camshaft as a mod.

Yea bro, it makes sense if you don't think about it

 

[Marc s]

Defying the english language and the dictionary doesn't make you or the GM guys look any smarter.

Should I start "muffler only" for my car?

I have the "muffler only" since I have the engine delete mod.