07 to 2010 engine swap intake and exhaust

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Good morning,

I'm new to the forum so please forgive me if I'm not posting in the right area.
I recently purchased a 2007 GT and dropped a 2010 engine in it. The stock engine came with a stock CAI. I tried running it but it would keep shutting off. I eventually put the stock '07 airbox on and everything is fine. My question is, what would I need to do to install the CAI and have it running properly? Is it a harness issue or a tuning issue?
Also, I'm looking to upgrade the '07 stock exhaust. Not looking for performance so much as sound. Should I go with an exhaust specific to the 2010 engine, or are any of the 05-2010 exhausts ok?
 

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A picture of your CAI would be helpful but it sounds like its tube has a larger diameter than the stock intake tube. With a stock tune it'll cause the engine to run lean. The solution is to get a tune that's specific for that CAI since it'll have the correct MAF transfer curve.

As for the exhaust, I suggest you listen to a few sound clips on YouTube and decide which axle-back mufflers you like. Keep in mind that it's the front half of the exhaust (stock manifolds & cats) that's a restriction to performance, and upgrading that will also change the sound.
 
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The 2007 and 2010 Mustang GTs have different intake manifolds and different air inlet filter housings. The 2010 pulls air through the core support and the 2007 does not. The charge motion plates are in the manifold on the 2010 and mounted in separate plates on the 2007. The 2010 and 2007 have different tunes that give the 2010 about 10 more HP and torque.
 

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The 2007 and 2010 Mustang GTs have different intake manifolds and different air inlet filter housings. The 2010 pulls air through the core support and the 2007 does not. The charge motion plates are in the manifold on the 2010 and mounted in separate plates on the 2007. The 2010 and 2007 have different tunes that give the 2010 about 10 more HP and torque.
The 2010 is 315 hp + 325 tq..... both at the crank. The oem airbox on the 2010 flows a helluva lot more air than the 05-09 airbox. The 2010 airbox flows more air than the 2011-2014 airbox. The 2007 tune will probably not work with a 2010 engine. Put a K+N panel filter into the 2010 airbox, and flow rate is increased even more, a lot more.
 

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The 2010 is 315 hp + 325 tq..... both at the crank. The oem airbox on the 2010 flows a helluva lot more air than the 05-09 airbox. The 2010 airbox flows more air than the 2011-2014 airbox. The 2007 tune will probably not work with a 2010 engine. Put a K+N panel filter into the 2010 airbox, and flow rate is increased even more, a lot more.
Will the 2010 airbox fit a 2006 GT and will it require a tune? No motion plates.
 

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The 2010 air box has a snorkel that penetrates the core support. If you have the complete box I believe it will fit. You also need to move the power steering reservoir from the core support to the engine to use the 2010 air box. The little bracket can be difficult to locate.
 

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The 2010 air box has a snorkel that penetrates the core support. If you have the complete box I believe it will fit. You also need to move the power steering reservoir from the core support to the engine to use the 2010 air box. The little bracket can be difficult to locate.
On the oem 2010 upper grille, the upper grille blocks 80% of the airflow, due to the design of it, it's not as tall as the 05-09 cars, plus upper foglamps etc. You can't even see the snorkel. The air has to come in through what's left of the upper grille and do a 90 deg bend, then a 2nd 90 deg bend to get into the snorkel. That or come through the lower grille, do 2 x 90 deg bends to get to the snorkel.

I replaced the oem upper grille with a 7 bar grille (which deletes upper foglamps). Ok, now the upper 2 x 90 deg bends are eliminated, and the airflow is straight thought the new 7 bar upper grille...and straight into the snorkel. Now you can see the snorkel through the new upper grille. Eng bay temps dropped a bunch too. Boost increased a bit when on the hwy, with my small Roush M90 blower. On the 2010 Roush M90 setup, the CAI tube from the airbox to the dual 62mm TB is real short, and on the driver's side, and straight. On the 05-09 cars, the cai tube is a mile long, and crosses over to the pass side, with blower elbow facing the pass side. (folks call it the anaconda). The 7 bar upper grille was one of my better mods. On the 05-09 cars, the replacement upper grille is a 9 bar grille.
 

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Technically, you can run the engine indefinitely without the intake or MAF in place. The computer will fall back on other sensors to figure out what's going on and run the engine. It WILL run like total carp, and probably go immediately into "limp home mode" above a certain RPM, but it shouldn't just die. I don't believe a problem with the intakes would cause the engine to shut down.

When you tried the 2010 intake, were you using your stock MAF or the one that came with the 2010 intake? Is the filter new?
 

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A picture of your CAI would be helpful but it sounds like its tube has a larger diameter than the stock intake tube. With a stock tune it'll cause the engine to run lean. The solution is to get a tune that's specific for that CAI since it'll have the correct MAF transfer curve.

As for the exhaust, I suggest you listen to a few sound clips on YouTube and decide which axle-back mufflers you like. Keep in mind that it's the front half of the exhaust (stock manifolds & cats) that's a restriction to performance, and upgrading that will also change the sound.
The tubes look to be the same diameter
 

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At some point between 2009 and 2011, Ford switched to a digital, frequency based MAF sensor.
I can select in the tune which sensor type I want to use, but that is on a copperhead pcm. Not sure if that is possible on spanish oak (or if it is the problem here). But clearly, the '10 maf/airbox is not compatible with the tune. If the sensor is the same, I would guess the Maf housing must be larger. That could be tuned for.
 

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I’m pretty sure the 2007 and 2010 GTs use the same MAF sensor and the engines are the same except for the intake manifold and air box. You should be able to put the 07 intake manifold on the 10 engine and then install the 07 air inlet and the computer would never know you were there. It should run just fine. If you want to run the 2010 air box or air box and manifold you will have to tune for it. I would also suggest keeping the throttle bodies matched with the tune you are trying to run.
You basically answered your own question when you said it will not run with either MAF sensor hooked up but will run when they are unplugged. It should go into limp mode, idle OK but not drive worth a darn. You have to have it tuned.
When you start playing with the exhaust. You can change the mufflers (axle back) to alter the sound without consequence but if you install headers that relocate the O2 sensors or remove the rear O2 sensors or CATs you will have to get it tuned.
 
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Midlife has the simple solution. Follow that and it will run like a champ.
 

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