2013 A6 owners let's talk

[GeorgeInNePa]

I have seen other posts on SVT it also happens with 11-12 tuned cars. Do you send out e mail tunes or do you not have the capabilities to do this?

I have an '11 with a CircleD 5C converter and a tune. I can foot brake the car to 3500. The car has lifted the OEM driver's side front tire at the track on drag radials and gone 1.59 in the sixty. No problems with it not 60ing...


The car also will rip the tires off when it downshifts at low speeds.

 

[uncle phil]

The 2013 autos wont allow a stationary burnout even with tc and sc disabled they will still engage the abs . This can be remedied by pulling the # 10 30 amp fuse. I think some of the tuners have addressed this with there tunes. Currently my car is bone stock and Ive gone a best of 12.330 and best mph 114.61. Best 60 ft on stock 235/50/18s was 1.865. I got a tune from Doug at C&L but my tuner is not working properly so I havent been able to try it.

 

[MindIfISmoke?]

The 2013 autos wont allow a stationary burnout even with tc and sc disabled they will still engage the abs . This can be remedied by pulling the # 10 30 amp fuse. I think some of the tuners have addressed this with there tunes. Currently my car is bone stock and Ive gone a best of 12.330 and best mph 114.61. Best 60 ft on stock 235/50/18s was 1.865. I got a tune from Doug at C&L but my tuner is not working properly so I havent been able to try it.

Weird... mine has no issue doing a stationary burnout...

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[Bullett]

no issues here. With a Circle D 2c converter, ive done 1.6x 60's even on the Boss intake.. KDanner do u do email tunes??

 

[kdanner]

No email, personal friends only. I don't know why anyone would want one from me anyway, I've only done the one and it hasn't even been down the track yet.

Best advice I can give you is learn to do it yourself, it isn't that hard, these cars are much easier than the older ones.

 

[kdanner]

Put two 2013 autos into the 11s today. Neither car has problems doing burnouts. No idea why some of you are having problems, just not seeing it here.

 

[MindIfISmoke?]

what are you doing about the trans not wanting to go into 5th at WOT?

 

[kdanner]

Shifting at 7300 into 5th at WOT with the 3.15 gear is going to be around 166 MPH. No reason for me to care about that whatsoever.

 

[MindIfISmoke?]

You are still running the 3.15's? What the heck. What stall are you running?

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[4VFTW]

water is getting muddy

 

[kdanner]

You are still running the 3.15's? What the heck. What stall are you running?

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One of the 2 cars yesterday had a 5C. The other was a stock converter.

 

[dragpac]

Sounds like you need more timing from 0-2000 and 2000-4000.
Our 5.0 trucks got 2.0 60' bone stock at 14.20's and5000 lbs

 

[kdanner]

1300 DA at the time of these runs.

Green car is a base/automatic/tech package/recaro/brembo
rear wheels/radials
rear upper control arm
driveshaft
x-pipe/catback

Silver car is a base/automatic
rear wheels/radials
front 17" wheels/radials
rear upper/lower control arms/brackets
driveshaft
headers/x-pipe/catback
3.31
5C converter
Boss intake
CAI
rear seat delete/x-brace
mild steel roll bar
This one still needs some dialing in, just not enough time to finish yesterday. I'm wondering if as heavy as it is and not much gear that the Boss intake may be a bit of a problem.

 

[OLD_GOAT]

The 2013 autos wont allow a stationary burnout even with tc and sc disabled they will still engage the abs . This can be remedied by pulling the # 10 30 amp fuse. I think some of the tuners have addressed this with there tunes. Currently my car is bone stock and Ive gone a best of 12.330 and best mph 114.61. Best 60 ft on stock 235/50/18s was 1.865. I got a tune from Doug at C&L but my tuner is not working properly so I havent been able to try it.

Thanks to GeorgeInNePa who told me about this thread.

Uncle Phil, just for context with the 05 A4 Pontiac GTO we just pulled a fuse and left it off for about 10 seconds and it supposedly reset something (too long ago I forgot what it reset) then reinstalled the fuse. With the Mustang auto, do you just pull the fuse and reset it, or do you leave the fuse completely off? By pulling this fuse, does it have any other affect on the car outside of allowing a good launch?

 

[uncle phil]

Thanks to GeorgeInNePa who told me about this thread.

Uncle Phil, just for context with the 05 A4 Pontiac GTO we just pulled a fuse and left it off for about 10 seconds and it supposedly reset something (too long ago I forgot what it reset) then reinstalled the fuse. With the Mustang auto, do you just pull the fuse and reset it, or do you leave the fuse completely off? By pulling this fuse, does it have any other affect on the car outside of allowing a good launch?

No other effects. I just pull the fuse when I get to the track and reinstall it when Im finished. I dont know if this affects all 13 autos or just some of them but my dealer had another 13 a 6 that was the same as mine. My build date was 2/27/12 maybe later cars did not have this nanny.

 

[OLD_GOAT]

No other effects. I just pull the fuse when I get to the track and reinstall it when Im finished. I dont know if this affects all 13 autos or just some of them but my dealer had another 13 a 6 that was the same as mine. My build date was 2/27/12 maybe later cars did not have this nanny.

I made my first ever runs in my bone stock 2013 auto built late October 2012 and didn't notice any 'nanny' at all.

I was able to get a moderate burnout, and launched off idle on 3 of 4 runs. I won't discuss the pass I made launching @ 2,000 rpm's.

My PB 60' was 2.001, but due to clock problems, I was only able to see my R/T and 60' time, everything else was false. Then again, I can post the slip for this run and claim a 10.32 quarter mile.....LOL

My launch method was this:

Car started, foot on brake, hit the traction control switch twice fast and the message indicates "advance track sport mode" or something like that.

Moderate burnout after bypassing water, gear selector in 'S'.

Launch on the last yellow, and hold on.

Collect slip, either cuss, cry, go ho-hum, or holler out "hell yea".

I need more seat time to figure out whether holding the traction button for around 8 seconds, turning TC off, or the advance track sport mode is the way to go.

 

[OLD_GOAT]

My best, pre-CircleD was 1.82. That's foot braking it to 1800-1900 (just before it starts to turn the tires).


OP, I've read that you can't get away from the Advance Trac system on the '13s. Some people have said that it doesn't shut off completely on the stock tune.

2013's have Brake over Accelerator override , its a totally different system that was introduced by Toyota after a bunch of Prius owners reported that their accelerators got stuck and they ran people over. It makes it basically impossible to load the converter up. Dont know if a tune can disable it.

I had someone PM me asking a question about the accelrator over ride. I hadn't heard of it and I never noticed it on my 13. I can stall it up to around 2k. I had the same tune you are running. I didn't leave it untuned long but I never noticed it stock either. I have pulled a best of a 1.86 on stock tires with just a tune. Average though was mid 1.9s. Just takes some good air, good track prep and a proper burnout.

The 2013 autos wont allow a stationary burnout even with tc and sc disabled they will still engage the abs . This can be remedied by pulling the # 10 30 amp fuse. I think some of the tuners have addressed this with there tunes. Currently my car is bone stock and Ive gone a best of 12.330 and best mph 114.61. Best 60 ft on stock 235/50/18s was 1.865. I got a tune from Doug at C&L but my tuner is not working properly so I havent been able to try it.

I think page 173-174 in the Mustang owners manual explains some of this. Until this thread (thanks George) I never even heard of "Brake over Accelerator override." As I posted the other night, I was able to heat up the tires just fine.

I made my first ever runs in my bone stock 2013 auto built late October 2012 and didn't notice any 'nanny' at all.

I was able to get a moderate burnout, and launched off idle on 3 of 4 runs. I won't discuss the pass I made launching @ 2,000 rpm's.

My PB 60' was 2.001, but due to clock problems, I was only able to see my R/T and 60' time, everything else was false. Then again, I can post the slip for this run and claim a 10.32 quarter mile.....LOL

My launch method was this:

Car started, foot on brake, hit the traction control switch twice fast and the message indicates "advance track sport mode" or something like that.

Moderate burnout after bypassing water, gear selector in 'S'.

Launch on the last yellow, and hold on.

Collect slip, either cuss, cry, go ho-hum, or holler out "hell yea".]

I need more seat time to figure out whether holding the traction button for around 8 seconds, turning TC off, or the advance track sport mode is the way to go.

Now, here is a dilemma I noticed.

As I mentioned I did this in Advance Trac Sport mode (per manual offers a more spirited driving experience, but not to be used on public roadways), but when in sport mode the ESC and TCS are both enabled, while if in Advance Trac Disabled (foot on brake and hold traction button down for more than 5 seconds) both ESC and TCS are disabled.

It looks like I will need more seat time to find out which offers the best launching method for an untuned car with stock tires. Has anybody tried both of these methods?

 

[uncle phil]

Maybe I shuld rephrase this. My 2013 will do a stationary burnout but will only allow 2000/2200 rpms before power is reduced . My 2011 would allow you to hit the rev limiter after turning off the traction control. I think George will vouch for my driving ability.

 

[OLD_GOAT]

I think George will vouch for my driving ability.

No doubt he would, but your driving ability has never been questioned.

Perhaps I was in a different launch mode or something, but I was able to heat the tires to the limiter was almost hit. I was in S gear and was in the advance sport mode.

One day this week, I will find a quiet road and turn everything off (TC button and brake on for around 5-8 seconds) and in sport mode to see what will happen.

Again, your driving ability has never been in question. I've read too many of your postings to have any doubt how you take the car down the quarter.

 

[GeorgeInNePa]

Maybe I shuld rephrase this. My 2013 will do a stationary burnout but will only allow 2000/2200 rpms before power is reduced . My 2011 would allow you to hit the rev limiter after turning off the traction control. I think George will vouch for my driving ability.