400+ Power Package

[agamble]

Has anyone here tried this combo?

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.co...0_Mustang_GT_Top_End_Package_p/m-fr4-s197.htm

It looks tempting... I'm mainly use my car for track days and so I don't want the weight of a supercharger sitting on top of the engine. I wonder what kind of power it really lays down? Is there a similar package out there that does better?

 

[BMWM3]

I don't have that package personally but a member of my car club , ordered that package awhile back and when he finally got it, (something was on back order) , in addition to that package he also added, JLT cold air intake , sct tuner, msd coils, upgraded spark plugs, steeda delete plates, 3.73 gear, 1 peice drive axle, aluminum radiator, bbk shorty tuned headers, o/r pro chamber, and slp loudmouth, he put down 393rwhp on motor , then he fucked it all up after he added a 125 shot of nitro juice , currently he is rebuilding his stock bottom end, but before he was 393rwhp on a dyno jet

 

[Matt D]

Realistcly this combo without long tubes isn't going anywhere far

 

[Top00Cat]

+1 def need long tubes

 

[Matt D]

Actually 400 at the flywheel is about 350 at the wheels... I can't see this combo making that much power with all honesty. You will need a serious cold air, underdrive pulleys, long tubes, custom tuning etc

 

[US-1]

Ditch the cams and intake, replace with C&L intake manifold/Racer CAI and either Comp Cams 127400 (automatic transmission) or 127500 (manual transmission) then add American Racing Headers long tubes.

No problem.

 

[Matt D]

I don't have that package personally but a member of my car club , ordered that package awhile back and when he finally got it, (something was on back order) , in addition to that package he also added, JLT cold air intake , sct tuner, msd coils, upgraded spark plugs, steeda delete plates, 3.73 gear, 1 peice drive axle, aluminum radiator, bbk shorty tuned headers, o/r pro chamber, and slp loudmouth, he put down 393rwhp on motor , then he fucked it all up after he added a 125 shot of nitro juice , currently he is rebuilding his stock bottom end, but before he was 393rwhp on a dyno jet

I call bs on 393 wrhp... no chance with those hot rod cams, those mild cnc heads and stock bottom end and with shorty headers at that. These cars already come alum rad and it's nitrous not Nitro -_-

 

[BLVCKmamba]

No cold air no exhaust mods whatsoever realistically this can't be a bolt on 100hp at the crank you're missing too many key components no underdrive pulley, cai, headers, x pipe, high flows, no way this is a justified 3k. Forced air induction supercharge that instead.


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[BMWM3]

O.k. once you said bullshit i called and asked, he said 383rwhp seriously, and the bbk tuned headers , its long tube headers, and the heads were not frpp heads, he sold those after he get them and ordered stage 2 heads from livernoise, with upgraded guts in them .. my bad for bad info.

 

[BMWM3]

O.k. once you said bullshit i called and asked, he said 383rwhp seriously, and the bbk tuned headers , its long tube headers, and the heads were not frpp heads, he sold those after he get them and ordered stage 2 heads from livernoise, with upgraded guts in them, the radiator is the aluminum radiator from steeda he said the one that cost like 600 and something he said couldn't remember the name .. my bad for bad info.

on a side note the parts and labor he told me was right at little over 9 thousand dollars parts and labor and you only put out 383, ,

 

[Matt D]

O.k. once you said bullshit i called and asked, he said 383rwhp seriously, and the bbk tuned headers , its long tube headers, and the heads were not frpp heads, he sold those after he get them and ordered stage 2 heads from livernoise, with upgraded guts in them .. my bad for bad info.

Makes sense now

 

[Jimmy k]

Sounds better now, I can see that rwhp with those mods

 

[jodadejss06gt]

No offense to Matt or anyone else, but I spent 7 to get where I am now. There is no way I could spend 9 to have less.

 

[Matt D]

No offense to Matt or anyone else, but I spent 7 to get where I am now. There is no way I could spend 9 to have less.

You mean money wise? thing is it's not all about power to me... it's how im using it and I feel I can make the Na combo put me where most of the faster blower guys will be. I want to try and set this all motor record and do it for my own doing maybe i can inspire some along the way and it's all worth it for me. Plus I love all the work I have to put in for the results to show

 

[fdjizm]

I think I would go turbo before spending all that on NA power below 400hp.
although making some serious power NA is more respectable, my wallet doesn't care about respect

Matt you inspire me to get some great hp NA, but I would be damned if it costs me as much as a nice turbo set up would!

 

[Jimmy k]

You mean money wise? thing is it's not all about power to me... it's how im using it and I feel I can make the Na combo put me where most of the faster blower guys will be. I want to try and set this all motor record and do it for my own doing maybe i can inspire some along the way and it's all worth it for me. Plus I love all the work I have to put in for the results to show

+1+1 Well said Matt

 

[Matt D]

I think I would go turbo before spending all that on NA power below 400hp.
although making some serious power NA is more respectable, my wallet doesn't care about respect

Matt you inspire me to get some great hp NA, but I would be damned if it costs me as much as a nice turbo set up would!

I understand the bang for buck ratio come into play for sure. I don't knock on boosted cars one bit, the only reason any of us serious Na guys still do what we do is because we enjoy the package of what it's about.. and everytime out to the track is a war lol we all want the next best et and driving and modding goes hand in hand who takes the cake. I will continue the Na theme and see what I can find out that no one has tried yet...

 

[jodadejss06gt]

Shit, i'd love to have a N/A beast as well! I've always wanted a turbo'd something so what better to do it on then a v8 mustang.

 

[Matt D]

Shit, i'd love to have a N/A beast as well! I've always wanted a turbo'd something so what better to do it on then a v8 mustang.

Dam right!

 

[usafimj]

You could probably piece a better kit for around the same price.