Bolt on definition: A poll

[VTXFrank]

"Bolt Ons" have generally been considered as the cheaper things you can do to a car before you get to power adders. With most superchargers, you need to also upgrade fuel injectors, fuel pump(s), spark plugs and install some type of cooling apparatus. Not quite the inexpensive nor "easy" to bolt on things like a CAI or Cat-Back. That's why you hear the very large majority of folks say, "I've just got Bolt-Ons for now. But I hope to get a supercharger making 7psi at first, then eventually go forged and get over 12psi."

 

[NastyStang113]

So, does this mean that anyone with spark plugs isn't a bolt on car?

 

[VTXFrank]

So, does this mean that anyone with spark plugs isn't a bolt on car?

Since specific plugs are required for the car to operate, I don't consider them a "bolt on." That's a tune up part.

 

[Jucostud]

id say its everything but serious engine work, i.e cams, heads and FI.

or in the LSx nation where EVERYTHING is a bolt on, ever strokers and engine swaps.

Everything in the LSx nation is "cam only"

I don't consider any f/i bolt ons(including nitrous). Technically both bolt on, but they are a major performance increase. I'm probably in the minority, but on an ohc car, I consider cams to be a bolt on.

 

[NastyStang113]

Since specific plugs are required for the car to operate, I don't consider them a "bolt on." That's a tune up part.

LOL, you need a tune up.

 

[VTXFrank]

LOL, you need a tune up.

Why don't you just say what ever it is you want to say?

 

[SlowA$$5.0]

I voted for number four, but I really think the answer is number two. Although in reality a supercharger can be bolted on..

A supercharger IS bolted on.

"Bolt Ons" have generally been considered as the cheaper things you can do to a car before you get to power adders. With most superchargers, you need to also upgrade fuel injectors, fuel pump(s), spark plugs and install some type of cooling apparatus. Not quite the inexpensive nor "easy" to bolt on things like a CAI or Cat-Back. That's why you hear the very large majority of folks say, "I've just got Bolt-Ons for now. But I hope to get a supercharger making 7psi at first, then eventually go forged and get over 12psi."

All of which bolt onto the outside of the engine.



"Power Adder" is a classification term that came about as nitrous, turbos, and superchargers became more popular in drag racing so that the field could be more evenly matched. You don't see a "bolt-on" class, but you will see a "single power adder" class. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that when you bolt something to the external engine it is in fact a bolt-on.

 

[NastyStang113]

Why don't you just say what ever it is you want to say?

I did.

A supercharger IS bolted on.

That's what I said.

 

[VTXFrank]

I did.

Oh alright. Then why don't you say something that makes sense?

 

[VTXFrank]

"Power Adder" is a classification term that came about as nitrous, turbos, and superchargers became more popular in drag racing so that the field could be more evenly matched. You don't see a "bolt-on" class, but you will see a "single power adder" class. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that when you bolt something to the external engine it is in fact a bolt-on.

I understand how and where a power adder is, uhhh, added. By BOLTING it ON to the engine. But like I said, the large majority of folks are going to think of a power adder as more than just a bolt on item. It's a SERIOUS power adder, unlike intake/headers/exhaust and so on. The basic bolt ons are only good for 50hp or so on 2011's. I see what you're saying though. Maybe Basic Bolt Ons should be used to describe just the typical stuff that every one does and Full Bolt Ons could be used to describe everything to include a power adder.

 

[NastyStang113]

I was joking around with you. Does that make sense?

 

[VTXFrank]

I was joking around with you. Does that make sense?

Yep, it makes more sense.

Sorry...haven't slept well the last four nights or so.

 

[NastyStang113]

I'm in that club as well! My L5 is shifting into my spinal cord.

 

[VTXFrank]

That will do it. Back issues here as well as headaches and dizziness. If I nap during the day, then I'll never get good sleep at night. So after four days of trying not to nap, and not being too successful about it, as well as the pain from my lower back and my headaches, I'm not catching on too quick tonight.

I hope you feel better soon brother. Back pain sucks ass big time. And even though we have the air adjustable bed, forget the name of it....but you see the commercials all the time, it's still tough getting to sleep sometimes. The new bed does help, but when you have the perfect storm of pain going on, not so much.

 

[cobra mike]

superchargers, turbos, and nitrous are not considered bolt-ons, they are power adders. the argument that you bolt them on is silly.. you bolt everything on, the wheels, brakes, axle, engine all internal engine parts, doors, body panels, everything is bolted on, windsheild wiper motor. headlights, tail lights. fan, radiator, dash, seats, you get the picture...lol...a bolt on car is the simple stuff, that most do..example of a full bolt on car would be, cai, mass air meter, throttle body, possibly a intake, headders, mid pipe, cat back, shifter, springs, and misc small suspension components, drive shaft, and a tune to make parts work, may be a few things left out but you get the picture, anything for looks is apperence only not considered a bolt on, hood, wings etc.
superchargers, turbo, nitrous are power adders.
if you pull the valve covers and change any internal engine component its not a bolt on, its engine work.
front k member i would consider chassis work. a-arms and such suspension work..etc
but thats just my opinon on the matter..

 

[FalconGTHO]

To me gears ARENT a "bolt on" because you have to set backlash and pinion depth and I suspect few have the skill or tools to do so correctly, competently. Also, since it requires "internal" disassembly.

Power adders are bolt ons in the strictest, technical sense, just a very long, drawn out process in the case of s/cs and ESP turbos.

 

[cobra mike]

To me gears ARENT a "bolt on" because you have to set backlash and pinion depth and I suspect few have the skill or tools to do so correclty, competently. Also, since it requires "internal" disassembly.

Power adders are bolt ons in the strictest, technical sense, just a very long, drawn out process in the case of s/cs and ESP turbos.

ill go along with gears not being a bolt on.

 

[VTXFrank]

I will too. Removed from my post.

 

[ArtQ]

I'm pretty sure everything on this car is bolted on...

 

[Blxcklist]

Shouldnt this thread be on mustangforums.com ? WTF guys, seriously?