Can you do a clutch job on jackstands?

[o2sys]

Anyone done it? I plan to at least get a tranny cradle to support it. Are all the bolts of the bell housing easily accessible from the bottom?

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[JEWC_Motorsports]

Yes if you can fit under the car.

 

[07 procharger]

Done it 3 times on my back. The top 2 bell housing bolts are going to be a bitch, but yes you can do it all from underneath

 

[BruceH]

Yes. It's the only way I've ever done it. Remove the battery and tray first, it opens up access to the exhaust and top bolts.

 

[skwerl]

You can either tip the engine back and get the top bolts using long extensions or else Bruce H suggested pulling the battery tray and getting them from under the hood before jacking the car up.

edit- treed.

 

[AlbertD]

Possible... yes, Would I do it again... Hell no.

Tranny jack is a must, hope you are a strong mofo or have a friend available to help... R&R the tranny is not an easy task on jackstands.

Pro tip on pilot bearing removal, watch this video... It will do wonders for you especially since you will be trying to remove that bearing while on your back. I followed this method and had that bearing out in 5 minutes with minimal effort.



Goodluck

 

[itsslow]

I did it on jack stands ans no tranny jack. Never did it before. Take the intake manifold of for very easy access to the top 2 bolts, and just rent a pilot bearing remover from autozone

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[Wes06]

Possible... yes, Would I do it again... Hell no.

Tranny jack is a must, hope you are a strong mofo or have a friend available to help... R&R the tranny is not an easy task on jackstands.

Pro tip on pilot bearing removal, watch this video... It will do wonders for you especially since you will be trying to remove that bearing while on your back. I followed this method and had that bearing out in 5 minutes with minimal effort.



Goodluck

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[o2sys]

Yea that bread trick does work, I've done while the motor was out.

 

[BruceH]

Here's a link to my 6060 swap. It covers the clutch install which is the same. It's not that bad. The hard part is getting the 3650 out. It needs to be clocked or the k member needs to be lowered so that the useless ears on the bellhousing clear the tunnel.

http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38606&highlight=6060+install

Hammeron has a nice guide to swapping a clutch here:

http://home.comcast.net/~cookpaging/hammeron/clutch/clutch.html

 

[SNKPWR]

The bread works and is neater but I've found heavy grease is quicker

 

[phattyfat]

I did it this winter on jackstands. It's not as easy as doing a t-5 in a fox but not that bad either. I removed the intakle plenum to access the upper 2 bolts as well as the lower hydraulic clutch line. It also helped because i loosened up the 2 motor mount nuts and tilted the engine some being that the bell housing is attached to the tranny. The bread trick was the only technique that worked for me on the pilot bearing. Putting it in I definatly needed some helping muscle to get it back in. I also cut the unused hears off the bell housing to ease in installation. Bench bleed the new slave before installing that. Best of luck to ya.

 

[TexasBlownV8]

Doing clutch job now on jackstands, and trans sitting on trans jack.

Just be careful, make sure the care is adequately supported. i use at least 4 jackstands (2 on the sides, 2 up front under the k-member), and a jack next to the side jackstands, and the rear tires on the ground chocked with blocks. When you're underneath, you don't want the car to move one little bit. Take the time to be safe; not worth rushing and skipping on safety.

As Bruce suggested, remove the battery and tray first, then get to the top two bolts behind the intake, and the one by the battery tray..depending on what you can get to.

Hm, so that's why the trans didn't want to come out...those ears! I took care of that by clearancing the trans tunnel once the trans was out

Mine will be going back together this weekend.

 

[RED09GT]

The top 2 bellhousing bolts left my hands and wrists looking like they'd been through a meat grinder. I'm definitely pulling the intake next time.

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[TexasBlownV8]

With stock intake, stock irmc crap, and all that in the way, I was able to get to the top two bolts loose with a longer box end wrench. Most of the bellhousing bolts, I use a universal and longer extensions with a 13mm short socket on the end.

But, without the intake, it IS much easier!

 

[AutoXRacer]

Make sure you buy 4 jack stands that are tall...like truck ones.

Those standard car jacks are too short and you will not be able to roll it out from the trans tunnel; unless you add the extra step of jacking up the front end higher to provide clearance for the transmission.

Neat trick with the bread...but instead of using bread or grease, why not just use a pilot bearing puller?

 

[AlbertD]

Neat trick with the bread...but instead of using bread or grease, why not just use a pilot bearing puller?

Pilot bearing puller works just fine. I've used it on several pilot bearing removals on cars that were on a lift. I typically used a slide hammer to pull them out which requires a fair amount of leverage.

Laying on your back under a car on jack stands it is much easier to tap it out with some bread and a rod/hammer. Just my opinion. Either way works

 

[michael.konor]

Though this wasn't a clutch replacement, you can see in the picture that the principle is the same. Car is on *elevated* jackstands since I needed to remove the transmission from under the car and there just isn't enough room to slide it out while in a transmission jack.

Note: Removed the transmission to rebuild it myself awhile back.

As others have said, a transmission jack is IMHO a necessity. I also found that tilting the engine back slightly helps quite a bit with getting everything lined up. Even better is when you remove the upper intake and tilt it back even more. Oh yea, you hold the downward "tilt" in place with a small ratchet strap either way.

If you don't want to slide the transmission out from underneath the car, and don't mind a tight space, you can move it towards the back of the car until you run out of room in the tunnel.

Notice you can leave the shifter on the car. Even better (and a damn much easier) if you leave the boot in place on the shifter so when you reinstall you just push the boot up from the bottom and it pops into place.

 

[o2sys]

How are you guys able to jack the car so high on the stands in the first place?

Do I need a better jack that goes higher? And you are doing it at a corner at a time?

 

[AlbertD]

I used some Rhino ramps from Autozone for the rear tires and elevated the front using normal jack stands. It was no where near as high as konor's (although that would have been nice!), but it was plenty of room for me to get the job done.