Car keeps stalling lately

[Johnf78]

I wish we had better alternatives. I went through a rebuilt from autozone before I bought the PA.

What about a 2010 alternator? A lot of people seem to have good luck with them.

 

[mfergel]

What about a 2010 alternator? A lot of people seem to have good luck with them.

Oh yeah? I hadn't heard that they were interchangeable. What changes did they make with them?

 

[Johnf78]

Oh yeah? I hadn't heard that they were interchangeable. What changes did they make with them?

2010 alternators are a 3 phase unit and the older ones are single phase.

Search 2010 alternator and there a bunch of threads of people that have done the switch.

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

Let me tell you about PA Performance Alternators.

They break on a regular basis. They would last about a year for me.

So I had 2 identical PA Performance alternators.

When it self destructed, I swapped it with the other one and sent back the broken one to be fixed/replaced. About a year later, the process repeats.

I must say their alternators just suck. They must use crap parts or have shitty quality control.

I don't normally say bad things about a product or company but I feel compelled to here.

Made in PROC. Enough said.

 

[Pentalab]

Made in PROC. Enough said.

Yes, they are made in china. AutoXracer went through hell with the PA alternator'S in his roush..including their 200A version.

Just use the Ford (denso) 2010 alternator. They are a direct drop in for the 05-09 cars. They are 135A, 3 phase types....then end of problem. Then your output vdc will remain constant...from idle to wot. The 05-09 single phase types went the way of the do-do bird. No car maker is using single phase alternator's. Ford was the last to use em. No jap or EU car has used a single phase alternator in a million years.

 

[mfergel]

Yes, they are made in china. AutoXracer went through hell with the PA alternator'S in his roush..including their 200A version.

Just use the Ford (denso) 2010 alternator. They are a direct drop in for the 05-09 cars. They are 135A, 3 phase types....then end of problem. Then your output vdc will remain constant...from idle to wot. The 05-09 single phase types went the way of the do-do bird. No car maker is using single phase alternator's. Ford was the last to use em. No jap or EU car has used a single phase alternator in a million years.

Well that's bullshit. They make it sound like they are hand built by a small team in PA.

That said, and while I think there are alternator issues, I think the stalling is due to something else. So, for the last few days everything has been running fine. Yesterday after work, same starting issue and it wanted to stall out. Had to do some serious accelerator pumping to keep it running. Now, on the parking deck I use, my car is at an angle. I'm wondering if a) it's an oil issue (I checked levels) and it's not priming the cylinders properly. Maybe an oil pump issue? or b) given that I had to pump the shit out of it, something in the fuel delivery? Injectors, coils, spark?

 

[06monera96]

2005 to 2009 all had issues with resistor and transistor. Pcm and SJB did not like the spikes or variable voltage. if not between 13.8 ~ 14.8 the car would run like shit.
Most common issue would be the misfires and crank sensor going fubar! We have a guy in Canada notice the issue with some of the guys constantly blowing the alternator.
They started building them speciality for the 05 to 09's

Yes our s197 were the bastard childs of the s197 life with all the electrical gremlins.

 

[Pentalab]

Well that's bullshit. They make it sound like they are hand built by a small team in PA.

AutoXracer, after going through all the grief with his numerous PA alternators, sez they are re manufactured units...built in PROC.
The ecu + SJB don't want to see any surges, spikes, transients, low voltage condx, or excessive high voltage condx.

Bruce H posted the software tables, where the ecu controls the output vdc of the alternator..and it was a very narrow range....( like 14.3-14.6). Based on heat. The hotter the eng bay gets, the vdc of the alternator creeps up ever so slightly. The ecu looked at incoming air temps, eng coolant temps, CHT etc, etc.

Single phase alternators are no longer used in the car industry...so why buy one, when the 3 phase 2010 alternator is a direct drop in on any 05-09 car.

 

[bujeezus]

Shit, this makes me want to replace the 1 I just replaced with a '10...

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

2005 to 2009 all had issues with resistor and transistor. Pcm and SJB did not like the spikes or variable voltage. if not between 13.8 ~ 14.8 the car would run like shit.

I don't think that's necessarily true. When my alternator started going out in August last year, my engine ran fine even though the voltmeter gauge was to the left of center (nornally 2/3 between left & right) and I had 11.5v at the battery with the engine idling.