Driving in the (RAIN) with Toyo Proxes R888 tires ...

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As many of you know I changed tires not long ago.
I changed from the Continental DW Extreme Tires to the Toyo Proxes R888.
One of my main concerns was driving with them in the, (Rain).
Most of us running these tires probably would not intentionally jump out there in the rain.
But once we are out there and get caught in a down-pour you only have a couple of choices.

(1) Stop at next off ramp/exit and wait.
(2) Slow down and keep driving with Caution.

On with my story.

This past Saturday I drove to Louisville, Ky. and then to Sadieville, Ky. from there.
I met up with Family in Louisville, Ky. to watch my Niece Ice Skate in a Christmas program.
Then from there drove to their home in Sadieville, Ky. and spend the weekend.
I drove back home to Franklin, TN. on Monday morning leaving at 5.30 am.

The miles covered were like 500 plus round trip.

Now to get on to the real point of this Thread/Post.

Driving in the rain with the Toyo Proxes R888 tires.

This was done with (New Tires) with hardly any miles on them and No-Burn Outs at all or Drag Racing passes on them.

Tires had 32 psi in all four.

And weather conditions temperature wise was like Low 40's to mid 50's.

If you don't know these tires are not designed for Cold Weather driving.

These are Summer Performance tires ..... Only !!!


Now to give you the information with not to many useless words.
Here we go .......

You can definitely drive in the rain with these tires but here is what you need to know.

(1) As long as the road smooth and the water is (Not) standing.

(2) Watch your Butt if you are on a road that has the (Ruts) in it.

(3) If you try driving in those ruts where the water is standing you won't for long.

Your Mustang will start moving around on you as the (Tread Depth) cannot get rid of that much water.

(4) Water standing on the road will have your Mustang, (Hydroplaning).

(5) Also passing Semi-Trucks is sometimes Scary as they push a lot of water into your lane as you are passing them.

The rest of the story.

The above is what I personally observed while driving in the rain.
Sometimes it was raining pretty darn hard.
Other times it was a mild rain.
Almost all the time I was driving on a wet surface going and coming back home.

I actually made this trip to find out just how bad it would be to drive with these tires in rain.
And also when it was Cold outside which these tires are actually designed for Summer Use Only.

So if any of you have been wondering about these tires and driving in less than ideal conditions.
You can as long as you use Common-Sense.
My opinion is you would be much better off driving with them in the Daylight hours.
You can much better see what is in your lane on the road surface as long as it is not just "Pouring-Down".
If it was raining so hard you cannot see the vehicle in front of you I think I would pull over at that point and wait until it lightened up some.
I think you would be taking your Life in your hands if it was trying to drive with these in the above condition.

I took a few quick pictures I will post to show you what I was driving in.
They are not great but give you the general idea.
I wish after seeing these Pics. enlarged I had left the windshield wipers on taking them.

Here is another Thread Link on these tires if you are not familiar with them.
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93351


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Sounds like their about the same in rain as the nt555r's.
Love ya Terry, but holy shit.... that was one hell of a drawn out post.

Seriously, why would you even take a short trip in the rain with these tires, let alone, that much driving in bad weather?

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No offensive but driving 70+ in the rain in a RWD is a little crazy. All tires at that speed will hydro plane and not handle the rain well.
My f250 with an all terrain will hydro plane at the same speed. The water starts building a film under all tires at 35 mph.

Not saying that your review is bad in anyway, but slow down before you hurt your car or you
 

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Idk about crazy, I did it all the time with my crown vics and my Mustang. By the same token I had regular tires or All seasons on.
 

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When I had my Michelin pilot sport a/s plus's, rain had no effect on my driving at any speed. A car being rwd has no effect on it hydroplaning. It's all about the tire.
 

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No offensive but driving 70+ in the rain in a RWD is a little crazy. All tires at that speed will hydro plane and not handle the rain well.
My f250 with an all terrain will hydro plane at the same speed. The water starts building a film under all tires at 35 mph.

Not saying that your review is bad in anyway, but slow down before you hurt your car or you

Serious? I drive 80-100 mph in RWD vehicles in the rain all the time. Do they not have much rain where you live?
 

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Sounds like their about the same in rain as the nt555r's.

Considering their design and tire type I wouldn't think the R888s would be any good in the rain. Good dry tires though.

Love ya Terry, but holy shit.... that was one hell of a drawn out post.

Seriously, why would you even take a short trip in the rain with these tires, let alone, that much driving in bad weather?

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R888's if shaved are actually a rain tire....

But yes, summer only...

No offensive but driving 70+ in the rain in a RWD is a little crazy. All tires at that speed will hydro plane and not handle the rain well.
My f250 with an all terrain will hydro plane at the same speed. The water starts building a film under all tires at 35 mph.

Not saying that your review is bad in anyway, but slow down before you hurt your car or you

Idk about crazy, I did it all the time with my crown vics and my Mustang. By the same token I had regular tires or All seasons on.

When I had my Michelin pilot sport a/s plus's, rain had no effect on my driving at any speed. A car being rwd has no effect on it hydroplaning. It's all about the tire.

Guys let me try to reply to all the above post here it will be quicker.

1st off I tried the tires out in the rain because I personally wanted to know how they would do.
The speeds I chose were my decision and I never said someone else should try the same thing.
If you want to know something and I did then get out there and do a test and find out what is factual.
Also keep in mind that the tires are and were still new.
If the Post was long and drawn-out to one of you then skip the parts you did not like.
I do very detailed factual Post as always and I usually try to add pics. to support my text.
Speaking of driving through standing water with these tires.
I did not drive for the most part through deep standing water in my lane.
I drove around it as it was daytime and I could see those areas and mostly avoid them.
Why the 70-75 MPH speeds?
Because I wanted to find out how the Mustang would behave nothing more than that.
Keep in mind I was not tailgating other vehicles.
I did pass tractor-trailer trucks so I could see what would happen with the tires.
Actually as long as it was not raining very hard that was uneventful.
I would not recommend doing that in a real downpour though.
Trust me the 6/32nds tread depth cannot get rid of to much water thrown under your tires from the tractor-trailer tires.
For the most part of the 500 miles and it either raining lightly or certainly wet the trip was uneventful.
No different than driving with any other tire actually.

Also I should mention as I did in the other Post above I did not use any of the Power Potential of the Mustang.
It was not on boost and I was not really passing under Power other vehicles.
I intentionally drove with Caution and stayed away from other vehicles as best I could.
Also I Posted this information to help others to know how these tires would behave in a wet drive and even in the rain.
(Not a Storm)
I did not post this to show-off or come across as Mr. Big Shit.
Nor to prove my driving talent.
It was done and Posted as I said to deliver Factual information to those that might consider running the Toyo Proxes R888 tires.

I guess it really makes little difference why one does a Post.
It will be perceived by some in a negative way that was not the intention of the poster.
In this case me.

Terry

These tires can be driven in the rain with Caution & Common Sense:

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@tiger being that u have all summer tires you think the nitto 555r's will stand similar temps like your experiencing. 30s-40s?
 

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@tiger being that u have all summer tires you think the nitto 555r's will stand similar temps like your experiencing. 30s-40s?
James .....

My (Opinion) is they should have No-Issues with 30's-40's temperatures.

All (Summer) tires are for Hot-Weather for them to work with their Tire Compound.
You can drive with them in the colder conditions but (Caution) had better be used all the time.
They have Little (Traction) in colder weather !!!

See if this answers your questions?

http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt555#overview

http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt555#size

http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt555#tech

Summer Ultra High Performance Radial

The NT555 is a summer-oriented ultra high performance street tire
designed with the performance driver in mind. The NT555 provides
increased traction and handling capabilities while prolonging the life of the
tire. The NT555 will get you off the line quickly, provide stability in the
straights and confidence in the corners.

UTQG Treadwear: 300
Traction: A
Temperature: A


Terry

Here is the "Warning-Label" for the Toyo Proxes R888 tire and {Cold operating Temperatures}.

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Thanks for the info. I ask bc I need new rear tires soon and I want drag radials but we still have about 3 monthes of cold weather left. I saw that u gave a description of the nt555 which is a summer tire as well but I dont know about the drag radial "nt555R"
 
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Thanks for the info. I ask bc I need new rear tires soon and I want drag radials but we still have about 3 monthes of cold weather left. I saw that u gave a description of the nt555 which is a summer tire as well but I dont know about the drag radial "nt555R"
James .....

Personally I think as long as you don't expose the New Tires to temps way down LOW like below 30-Degrees you are good to go.

"CAUTION" is what needs to be constanly on one's mind with (Summer) tires in the winter or colder weather or certainly Rain.

They just don't have any {Traction} period !!!

Terry
 

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Well, it seems as if you did your "experiment" safely enough, as you made it home in one piece. I'd anything, you have convinced me to never drive tires like these in the rain. :)

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Well, it seems as if you did your "experiment" safely enough, as you made it home in one piece. I'd anything, you have convinced me to never drive tires like these in the rain. :)

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Let me add this to you and others on S197.

The real point of me testing the Toyo Proxes R888 tires was this.
I drive way out of State to attend Mustang events.
Anyone that drives distances knows there is no way for it to always end up on a summer dry day.
You can and usually do run into some Rain or certainly wet roads/interstates while traveling.

That being said I would much prefer to know way a head of time that as long as one uses a lot of common sense they can in fact drive with these tires if they had to.

Now I know for a fact it can be done and done (Safely).

I did the Thread/Post to let others on here know the (Facts) not any one's opinion.

If a person had the choice I would probably would tell that person not to jump out there on a trip knowing it was Forecasting Extreme Weather.

But also I would think from all the explanations I have talked about on this Thread it should give a full accounting of what I did on a very long trip.

Use the information to your and others benefit is my hope and nothing more.

Better to know way ahead of time to know what to expect than to get one's ass caught in Rain and immediately PANIC unnecessary.

Terry
 

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I had R888s on my Supra for a long time. Getting caught in the Florida summer afternoon showers was brutal. Definitely not recommended. They did hook extremely well up to about 800whp. For light rain they are fine imho but yeah down here in the summer you just can't risk it.
 

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I bet trying to take pictures of the rain/road while you driving didn't help matters either! :roflmao:
 

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I had R888s on my Supra for a long time. Getting caught in the Florida summer afternoon showers was brutal. Definitely not recommended. They did hook extremely well up to about 800whp. For light rain they are fine imho but yeah down here in the summer you just can't risk it.
I Agree !!!
It would not be a smart move to jump out there in a real down-pour for sure.
They are just not going to be able to get rid of that sort of water with there tread pattern and 6/32nds tread depth even when new.

I have some buddies that live in Florida and from what talk about in regards to rain.
I would not even buy the Toto R888 tires.
It would in that case be a waste of money.

They did hook extremely well up to about 800whp.
In my case that is not ever going to be a concern.

Terry
 

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