just left the dyno and im PISSED....

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sooo we get the car strapped down, we wanted to get the N/A tune down, and then do a tune on the nitrous. so the first pull got 287whp, the next got 292whp. for some reason the car kept pullilng timing from 4100rpm's to 4800rpm's. the car did fine until he hammerd the throttle, then it would pull timing, and then right around 4800 the timing would go back up to where it would normally be (not pulling timing anymore).. my car is an auto w/a tci 3k stall, and all the mods listed in my sig, we had the trans locked in 4th gear, then we tried to let the trans shift like normal, w/ the OD turned off, and then while running on the dyno it still went into OD at 5500 rpm's.. we turned the knock sensors off, and it would still pull the timing. .WTF is going on here? is something wrong w/ the VCT's??? whats wierd is that the AFR is right on, no spikes or anything whatsoever. ? i have read that the hot rod cams dont need lockouts or phase limiters or anything, but my tuner is at a loss and neither one of us know wtf is going on.. they did the cam swap for me about 3 weeks ago. and im kinda pissed that i have all these mods and the car wont even laydown over 300whp? ? ? i was REALLY hoping to get 310-320whp... any suggestions would be GRAND.. i going to call John and Chris at BBR tomorrow and see if they can give me any suggestions. and my tuner is going to ask around to.. they have never seen this problem before, and they have built and tuned a couple auto s197's, there were 3 other s197's there so its not like they dont know wtf they are doing or anything.. any thoughts or suggestions??
 
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MC Racing in kansas city ks. and the owner Paul usually does all the tuning and thats who is doiing my tuning to. im not pissed at the shop as they have never had this problem before.. just pissed about the lack of #'s really, but i havent been charged yet and wont be until he figures out what the deal is.. i took my car there because they DO actually do good work and will stand behind it etc. very well known for the nasty street cars they build there.
 

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MC Racing in kansas city ks. and the owner Paul usually does all the tuning and thats who is doiing my tuning to. im not pissed at the shop as they have never had this problem before.. just pissed about the lack of #'s really, but i havent been charged yet and wont be until he figures out what the deal is.. i took my car there because they DO actually do good work and will stand behind it etc. very well known for the nasty street cars they build there.

Yes they do good work and absolutely stand by there work...my car is one of the others up there right now :evillaugh:

Im sure they will get all worked out for you soon man.
 

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I don't get a boner over dyno numbers usually, but something is going on. Hopefully you guys can get it pinned down. What kind of timing is being commanded when it's being pulled? How much total timing are you running? I assume this is all on 93 octane. Just looking for some quick details.
 

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Yes they do good work and absolutely stand by there work...my car is one of the others up there right now :evillaugh:

Im sure they will get all worked out for you soon man.

which one?? you better not say the red one that is shooting for 1000whp or the green one.. s197's lol
 

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I don't get a boner over dyno numbers usually, but something is going on. Hopefully you guys can get it pinned down. What kind of timing is being commanded when it's being pulled? How much total timing are you running? I assume this is all on 93 octane. Just looking for some quick details.


91 octane, and im not sure on EXACT timing #'s but i will get him to email me the dyno sheet tomorrow and post it up.
 

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im sure that since your a paying customer.. they arent to sick of it.. lol :beerdrink:

I don't know man, my car has gave them hell! Do you know if they got it put back together and on the dyno yet?

As for your car man I'm not sure what the problem is but I can say that they will take care of you, just be patient.
 

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I don't know man, my car has gave them hell! Do you know if they got it put back together and on the dyno yet?

As for your car man I'm not sure what the problem is but I can say that they will take care of you, just be patient.

ya im sure they will get it figured out.. just frustraiting is all.. and no your car isnt done yet.. i went and looked under your hood to get a glimpse of the e-force.. its on etc. the front cover is still off and a bunch of other stuff.. cams were in it, but i dont know if which cams they were since i saw the 2 comp boxes in your trunk.. ?
 

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ya im sure they will get it figured out.. just frustraiting is all.. and no your car isnt done yet.. i went and looked under your hood to get a glimpse of the e-force.. its on etc. the front cover is still off and a bunch of other stuff.. cams were in it, but i dont know if which cams they were since i saw the 2 comp boxes in your trunk.. ?

The blower has been on since Dec. but then we decided to do a built motor/cams and up the boost.
 

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The blower has been on since Dec. but then we decided to do a built motor/cams and up the boost.


ive heard nuthin but GREAT things about that e-force.. but no news of one w/ a built motor.. yet! lol

they did my boss's Rousch 427r to a TVS swap w/ cams etc.. that car is laying down 560whp, i drove it the other day and that car is a HANDFULL!! but sooooooooooooo much fun.. just got drag radials put on it and those make a WORLD of difference w/ that much power.
 
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ive heard nuthin but GREAT things about that e-force.. but no news of one w/ a built motor.. yet! lol

Hopefully they will wrap it up soon, Im itching REAL bad to go racing this summer.

Cant wait till I take my fast car up there for them to work on :evil:

(Sorry for the thread jack BTW)
 

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Hopefully they will wrap it up soon, Im itching REAL bad to go racing this summer.

Cant wait till I take my fast car up there for them to work on :evil:

(Sorry for the thread jack BTW)

your not breaking my heart.. lol this thread prob wont be very helpfull until i get the graph tomorrow from Paul to post here etc.
 

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your not breaking my heart.. lol this thread prob wont be very helpfull until i get the graph tomorrow from Paul to post here etc.

So how did you like my "sleeper" look of my car? Think I will fool anyone?:naughty1:
 
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