Possible to swap a 2013-14 guage cluster into 2010

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I searched and could only find information on swapping from a premium lcd guage from a base model for 2011+ . Is it possible to do this in a 2010?
 

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Possible, probably. Plug & play, definitely not. You will atleast need to find a way to PMI the new cluster, and then program PATS keys as the PATS module is in the cluster. And once you install the new cluster, your stored key codes are still in the old cluster you took out.
 

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I would guess NO since the 2010 is a 4.6L engine, 2011+ is the Coyote, so the cluster works on a much different ECM... but that's just a guess
 

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I would guess NO since the 2010 is a 4.6L engine, 2011+ is the Coyote, so the cluster works on a much different ECM... but that's just a guess
Kind of what I thought but figured why not check. The 2010 is like the redheaded stepchild of the group.
 

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I would guess NO since the 2010 is a 4.6L engine, 2011+ is the Coyote, so the cluster works on a much different ECM... but that's just a guess
Well, the cluater works in my 07 with a 2013 pcm after PATS was disabled. But the cluster does not show up in IDS unless I wire in the original v6 pcm temporarily.
 

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Well, the cluater works in my 07 with a 2013 pcm after PATS was disabled. But the cluster does not show up in IDS unless I wire in the original v6 pcm temporarily.
Interesting. What is IDS again? Was it plug and play or did you have to make an adapter harness. Your running a 3v motor off the 2013 pcm?
 

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Interesting. What is IDS again? Was it plug and play or did you have to make an adapter harness. Your running a 3v motor off the 2013 pcm?

IDS is the Ford dealer diagnostic software.

Not running a 3v, it is a coyote swap/coyote pcm with the 2007 cluster still in place. And no, not plug&play. I repined the C175B pcm connector.
 

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IDS is the Ford dealer diagnostic software.

Not running a 3v, it is a coyote swap/coyote pcm with the 2007 cluster still in place. And no, not plug&play. I repined the C175B pcm connector.
You put in a good amount of work then. I don't think I could use a newer pcm with my 3v motor though.
 

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Well, the cluater works in my 07 with a 2013 pcm after PATS was disabled. But the cluster does not show up in IDS unless I wire in the original v6 pcm temporarily.
If you tear tag in with the old PCM teartag number, the cluster should show up. It always did for me whenever I used IDS after my swap. IDS wouldn’t ID my car unless I used the teartag for either my coyote PCM or my old 3V PCM since it doesn’t recognize the calibration part number.
 

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If you tear tag in with the old PCM teartag number, the cluster should show up. It always did for me whenever I used IDS after my swap. IDS wouldn’t ID my car unless I used the teartag for either my coyote PCM or my old 3V PCM since it doesn’t recognize the calibration part number.

This was my thought also and it did not work. I've actually flashed the coyote pcm with my 07 v6 teartag and VIN and still the IPC does not show up for configuration. If I connect my 2013 cluster, it shows up just fine.
 

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