Procharger or Kenne Bell?

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lol I would love to hear your logic behind this.

when you're racing - how often are you in a low RPM area where a centri makes less power?

the centri continues to make boost and power as the RPM climbs. if you look at the top racers (not NHRA Full Throttle Series where they are limited to roots blowers) most of the "fast cars" have Turbos or Centis vs. TS/Roots style blowers.
 

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when you're racing - how often are you in a low RPM area where a centri makes less power?

the centri continues to make boost and power as the RPM climbs. if you look at the top racers (not NHRA Full Throttle Series where they are limited to roots blowers) most of the "fast cars" have Turbos or Centis vs. TS/Roots style blowers.

:thumb: I never seen under 4k rpm at the track.
 

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lol I would love to hear your logic behind this.

What they said, lol

A centuri is more efficient and robs less power and is usually intercooled better. They just make more top end power. Always have - always will.

While the insta-torque of the KB is mega fun on the street.
 

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when you're racing - how often are you in a low RPM area where a centri makes less power?

the centri continues to make boost and power as the RPM climbs. if you look at the top racers (not NHRA Full Throttle Series where they are limited to roots blowers) most of the "fast cars" have Turbos or Centis vs. TS/Roots style blowers.

To be fair with this statement a lot of those same classes they don't allow TS/Roots or they are small tire classes which is almost impossible to get a TS/Roots(with 1500+hp) to hook right out the gate. From my experiance if you take two cars one with a TS/Roots and one with a centri making the same amount of power you will see about the same et but the centri will have higher mph.
 

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/\ that maybe, I'm not very familiar with all the class rules
 

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Been in both and I chose the procharger.Very mild mannered under 3k rpm's,but above that its so much fun as the boost comes on.If I had gone the TS route it was going to be a KB.I dont think there is a choice you will be dissapointed in either way.Just figure out how YOU drive your car and where you want the power to be and it should make your decision pretty easy.Dont ignore the option of turbo either.Lots of options out there.
 

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I chose Procharger as well. I really like my power band, LOVE the sound, and it's quite attractive to look at as well.

I have nothing bad to say about a KB or Whipple. I just love my Procharger.
 

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Regardless of which blower you choose. Understand that you'll be a little down on power compared to others b/c of those Hot Rod cams. The overlap on the HR cams are too much and tend to bleed off boost b/c of keeping the valves open too long.

Kenne Bell is my #1 choice. However, the Procharger system or even our BBR exclusive system would work wonders.
 

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Regardless of which blower you choose. Understand that you'll be a little down on power compared to others b/c of those Hot Rod cams. The overlap on the HR cams are too much and tend to bleed off boost b/c of keeping the valves open too long.

Kenne Bell is my #1 choice. However, the Procharger system or even our BBR exclusive system would work wonders.

I did not lose any boost with my hot rods. 9.9 psi with my 3.5" pulley
 

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If you’re going to be driving around on drag tires 24/7... get a twinscrew... Whoever says they don't want lay down the torque of a twinscrew is a liar or R-tard. Centri's really only have an advantage in the traction department and cooling department when we start talking about serious high horsepower application which 99.9% of this forum does not qualify for so its a mute point.

In my opinion, Get whatever supercharger you will be able to use... If you’re not planning on running some serious tires / traction setup... I would suggest getting a centri. That does not mean you'll be able to run street tires and stick a centri supercharged car... My cars uterly useless on street tires until it hits 3rd gear... But that may have more to due with my 3,000 high stall torque converter then anything.

 

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I still have not purchased a supercharger yet. Been riding the Harley so much that the Mustang just sat. Now I m getting the itch again to start shopping for some type of blower.

Jack
 

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procharger. get the d1 or f1

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You may as well ask if chocolate or vanilla is better. You will get just as many varied answers and none of them are wrong or right.

One thing about the PD blowers I don't see talked about is the boost it makes and how it makes it. Leaning into the throttle does not automatically put the blower at full boost. If you just floor it, yup full boost. Light throttle action however, results in light boost. Unless this has changed since about 1996 when my friend had a 1st generation Lightning with a KB on it, you can control how much boost you make and when you make it.

If you have the ability to run the throttle in a function other than on/off, you can manage the boost and with it the amount of power you get. I know several people that when I ride with them, they have all the throttle control of a light switch. It's either given it gas or letting off. There is no finite control in between. This makes me crazy. Learn how to control the throttle. If you drive like the throttle is a light switch, don't buy a PD blower.

I, as a result of driving my friends Lightning many times back in '96-'98, will never buy a centri supercharger. One of my other friends has a Procharged 2000 COBRA convertible. And I do not care for the power delivery when it's on the street. To me the PD blower makes the engine behave like a big block when you want it to. A centri, just like a turbo, would be great on an automatic car as long as the auto had a proper torque converter.
 
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You may as well ask if chocolate or vanilla is better. You will get just as many varied answers and none of them are wrong or right.

One thing about the PD blowers I don't see talked about is the boost it makes and how it makes it. Leaning into the throttle does not automatically put the blower at full boost. If you just floor it, yup full boost. Light throttle action however, results in light boost. Unless this has changed since about 1996 when my friend had a 1st generation Lightning with a KB on it, you can control how much boost you make and when you make it.

If you have the ability to run the throttle in a function other than on/off, you can manage the boost and with it the amount of power you get. I know several people that when I ride with them, they have all the throttle control of a light switch. It's either given it gas or letting off. There is no finite control in between. This makes me crazy. Learn how to control the throttle. If you drive like the throttle is a light switch, don't buy a PD blower.

I, as a result of driving my friends Lightning many times back in '96-'98, will never buy a centri supercharger. One of my other friends has a Procharged 2000 COBRA convertible. And I do not care for the power delivery when it's on the street. To me the PD blower makes the engine behave like a big block when you want it to. A centri, just like a turbo, would be great on an automatic car as long as the auto had a proper torque converter.

Not exactly. As you can see on this dyno sheet a twin screw makes full boost as soon as the bypass closes. This makes the very flat torque curve that makes a Whipple so much fun. It also means sometimes unexpected wheel spin at higher power levels. My car always slid out very gently to the right when it broke traction, very predictable provided the road surface was good. Unexpected wheel spin didn't start happening until I got into the 500's for hp, prior to that it was pretty predictable. Note I also ran 4.10's, a tr606, and 28.5" tires with a trutrack.

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Here is a centri curve. It makes boost and torque in a linear fashion directly related to rpm. This curve allows more control while driving in traffic and passing situations. To me it acts just like a higher displacement motor.

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