Absolutely.Hard to spend around $2k just to have long tubes.
If you're not going to install a tune then why buy the SCTx4? It's $400. If you want to read and clear codes there are lots of cheaper options. The only reason to buy a SCTx4 is to install a tune. All the other functions are just a bonus, but not worth the price alone.Never said I'd use the pre-installed tunes just wondering about the tuner since I've never had or used one.
The reason why there is more to be gained on the 3v, is WOT is OPEN loop fueling. And Ford calibrates the pcm safe, aka rich AFR. Optimizing WOT afr with a wideband is where the gains come from.Well, I’ll say this, my experience with the SCT is based on my 2010 4.6 3v. Maybe it’s different with coyotes. I did notice an incremental gain in performance with the canned 93 tune. (I also did add an Airaid intake at the time). It wasn’t huge, but noticeable.
A lot of people like to shit talk these type of mods because they don’t offer big leaps in performance like headers or cams. But as stated elsewhere, the benefit of getting the tuner is getting custom tunes down road. And I will say the custom tune did make a big difference. I’m sure even a stockish car could benefit from it. In the end it’s your cold hard cash and you should research as much as you can before buying anything. Good luck!