The Electric Mustang

[Aerofinz]

You win!

 

[redfirepearlgt]

What the heck are you going to haul in a 3.5-4ft bed that you couldn't haul in a Ford Escape? NOTHIN! That's why I say it's not a truck.

 

[Aerofinz]

......

 

[redfirepearlgt]

Call it what you choose, it's a huge success and only getting more so with gas prices. Oh and good luck on your next trip to Home Depot in your Mustang that will cost 3 times in gas.

Only a geek goes to Home Depot in a Mustang unless he's picking up a tape measure or a tube a calk on the way home from somewhere else. That Maverick will have to make three trips to pick up what a truck can. Plus you will need to rent a flatbed to pull behind it to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood/drywall or 2x4 framing studs or 2x12 by 16ft to cut stairway stringers from, or decking material to build that deck....get it? So that makes it a "grow-shree- gitter"! LOL! Only a full blown suburbanite would call it a truck.

 

[Aerofinz]

Why bother

 

[Midlife Crises]

I’m not sure how this works anymore. Wife had a 2013 Edge. Ford classed it as a truck. That’s what it said on the title and registration. Now she has a Lincoln Corsair and it is also a truck according to the title. I think it has something to do with emissions. I’m pretty sure my F250 is a truck.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Yes. That and the fact that it's FWD. Not a truck.

Actually you can get it a awd like i have. Its a focus st with a bed and works perfectly fine.

 

[Jack F]

Its a focus st with a bed

Yep. Not a truck.

 

[Mach2burnout]

Actually you can get it a awd like i have. Its a focus st with a bed and works perfectly fine.

Think you could haul a 302 Ford engine in the back? If so, it’s a gosh darn truck!


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[JEWC_Motorsports]

Think you could haul a 302 Ford engine in the back? If so, it’s a gosh darn truck!


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Its payload capacity is 1500 and can tow 4k pounds. Its a truck. By yalls standards only a long bed would be considered a truck. And by the way its faster than a 3v mustang.

 

[Midlife Crises]

And by the way its faster than a 3v mustang.

I’m not sure that is entirely accurate.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

I’m not sure that is entirely accurate.

Stock vs stock its completely accurate. Lol

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

IMO the Mach E is neither a Mustang nor a truck. It's an electric soccer mom crossover and grocery getter.

Performance depends on the trim level. The plain Jane version with 266hp is definitely slower than a stock 3V GT but higher trim versions are quicker, and performance from the GT version is, shall we say, electrifying.

Personally if I wanted an electric Mustang, I'd Tesla swap my S197. It's already been done and this Testang (402rwhp, 339rwtq, 3600lb curb) hit the 1/4 mile in 11.78 @ 117.28.

https://youtu.be/HCgTLvp9q5A
https://youtu.be/tUnWAw6V71M
https://youtu.be/JckFDyFpHss https://youtu.be/NE0xi5Lh80U
https://youtu.be/evIj0Bb-s2o
https://youtu.be/EX13h3-d-gA
https://youtu.be/Xl7kkwK7bk0

Note that the dyno scale is in metric units I.e. Nm for torque and kW for power, so 460Nm = 339lbft and 300kW = 402hp.

 

[Pentalab]

IMO the Mach E is neither a Mustang nor a truck. It's an electric soccer mom crossover and grocery getter.

Performance depends on the trim level. The plain Jane version with 266hp is definitely slower than a stock 3V GT but higher trim versions are quicker, and performance from the GT version is, shall we say, electrifying.

Personally if I wanted an electric Mustang, I'd Tesla swap my S197. It's already been done and this Testang (402rwhp, 340rwtq, 3600lb curb) hit the 1/4 mile in 11.78 @ 117.28.

https://youtu.be/HCgTLvp9q5A
https://youtu.be/tUnWAw6V71M
https://youtu.be/JckFDyFpHss https://youtu.be/NE0xi5Lh80U
https://youtu.be/evIj0Bb-s2o
https://youtu.be/EX13h3-d-gA
https://youtu.be/Xl7kkwK7bk0

You will go broke replacing the battery...every 7-8 years. On most of these 100% EV cars, they say don't let em go below 20%..and don't go above 80%. My neighbour has the Nissan leaf. The battery is air cooled from down below. Read the fine print in the manual, after charging, do not drive for 1.5 hrs. Let the battery cool for 1.5 hrs before use. Ever see one of these lithium ion batteries catch fire. They are extremely difficult to put out. Water, foam, CO2 doesn't work.

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

The world isn't ready for EVs as the disadvantages are too numerous:

1. High purchase cost.
2. Limited range especially when many electrical accessories are used.
3. Long charging times unless it's a fast charging station.
4. Limited battery life. This considerably reduces the residual value of used EVs and the cost of replacement could be more than the car is worth. 5. Most batteries still can't be recycled so they're an environmental problem when disposed
6. Mining the lithium itself is damaging for the environment.
7. Risk of spontaneous combustion of lithium ion batteries when exposed to oxygen in the atmosphere. An accident that damages a battery pack is potentially fatal for EV occupants..
8. Insufficient electricity generating capacity and charging stations to cope with millions of EVs.
9. The majority of power stations still rely on fossil fuels and, realistically, you'd need to build many nuclear power plants to meet the extra demand.
10. Most advanced countries have too much national debt to be able to afford to build a large number of nuclear power plants, and environmentalists will object due to safety concerns.

Those who blindly buy EVs and have that warm n' fuzzy belief that they're good for the environment need to think again, as do government officials who are pushing ordinary people into buying them by offering "cash for clunker" type schemes.

 

[Pentalab]

That fellow here on S197, who runs the Ford service dept, posted a pix of a defective brand new F-150 electric truck, with the extended range battery. Truck was $62K.....and he said the replacement battery was... $57K wtf? The idea is.... you drive the truck for maybe 8-10 yrs, then toss it.

CBC just ran an extensive article on 100% EV's. The consensus is, 4 million fast charging stations are required, coast to coast, across Canada. The planned 100,000 fast charging stations won't even begin to cut it. Of course, the next thing they stated, was where is the power gonna come from ? And this is all supposed to happen by 2030-2035.

A hybrid is gonna be as good as it gets. These prius taxi cabs around town all get 5 L / 100 kms. I get 12-13 L / 100km on my 2011 Fusion...and 20L/ 100km on the mustang... (both in town). A hybrid would only use 38% as much fuel as my Fusion..and only 25% as much fuel as my mustang. Now if you want to save money on fuel costs, the hybrid would work. The 100% EV is a wasted effort at this point in time..esp on any out of town trips. You would have to know where every fast charger is on your planned route, pita.

 

[Aerofinz]

The world isn't ready for EVs as the disadvantages are too numerous:

Curious what your personal connections to the EV world might be. Friends or relatives actually working in the related industry?

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

Curious what your personal connections to the EV world might be. Friends or relatives actually working in the related industry?

None whatsoever. Most of them probably couldn't even change a light bulb.

 

[redfirepearlgt]

A 2014 Mustang has 700lb payload capacity. A crate engine Coyote 5.0 weighs 445 lb. So I guess from that standpoint that makes a 2014 Mustang a truck...

 

[Stranger]

At least this one looks the part...

Quick... but anticlimactic.
Speed's just not as fun without sound.