Bama tune 2011+ (moved)

[shark tales]

is the pcm something that can be swapped out? ie can a new one be ordered from ford?

 

[Kingcrabb]

That IMO is speculation. I have yet to see anything conclusive as to the causation of the #8 issues.

If you can link a source to support your post please do so.

To start, My buddys car AGAIN!!!!(non tune car)
And secondly there have been multiple #8 failures with just about every tune. Even the beloved God all Mighty Lund tune...

 

[stkjock]

is the pcm something that can be swapped out? ie can a new one be ordered from ford?

Not without a trail

 

[Kingcrabb]

is the pcm something that can be swapped out? ie can a new one be ordered from ford?

You could purchase a new one (expensive) put the new one in and run the tune then if you ever take it to the dealer put the original pcm back in without the tune.
A friend of mine did that with on of his cars and it worked.

I think it was a mopar tho. Maybe their systems and what not are different idk.

 

[shark tales]

(expensive) is prob cheaper than a new engine out of pocket!!

 

[stkjock]

To start, My buddys car AGAIN!!!!(non tune car)
And secondly there have been multiple #8 failures with just about every tune. Even the beloved God all Mighty Lund tune...

Yeah, a single car proves every thing.
I didn't say you were wrong, I said it was speculation, there are so many variables that IMO the total causation will likely never be known

And bringing Lund into it is not relavent, yes most tuners have had a number #8 failure, so what.

 

[shark tales]

has anyone swapped pcms as in insurance policy? just thinking outside the box here guys. we just got this 5.0 and it would suck to have a crapped out engine on a brand new car

 

[D98GT]

I could be 100% wrong though I thought they wouldn't provide you a computer without the vin-matched factory one as a swap?

 

[shark tales]

I could be 100% wrong though I thought they wouldn't provide you a computer without the vin-matched factory one as a swap?

it makes perfect sense for them to do that. wow though. looks like any reflash will be out of our future plans. if we do a catback exhaust on this will they try to deny warranty too? when does the madness end

 

[wbt]

The risk is slim to non. The problem is NOT the tune. It was Ford, They had some bad motors and the tunes only made the inevitable happen sooner.

That IMO is speculation. I have yet to see anything conclusive as to the causation of the #8 issues.
If you can link a source to support your post please do so.

I agree with stkjock. Kingcrabb the more you post, the more credibility you lose. How can you say without a doubt that the tune wasn't the cause of 90+% of the failures? It wasn't just #8 either. Do you have datalogs from cars that failed as conclusive evidence?

Here is something else to think about, why didn't the power adder cars have the same issue? If your theory was correct, we would have seen the same percentage of those cars have a failure. It just didn't happen and for a couple of reasons:

1. Less timing.
2. More fuel.

See the pattern here? The N/A tuned cars that had failure were running too lean and too much timing with the knock sensor sensitivity adjusted.

Are you gonna throw out the theory that an angry UAW worker must have installed all #8 rings upside down causing all the failures or eventual failures?

You are better off just stepping away from this discussion.

it makes perfect sense for them to do that. wow though. looks like any reflash will be out of our future plans. if we do a catback exhaust on this will they try to deny warranty too? when does the madness end

Go with a reputable tuner and you will be fine. Always run 91/93 in the car and you will be a happy owner. Don't let this fear mongering, bullshit deter you.

 

[Seer]

I know I am taking this even farther away from the topic, but have you ever used a Steeda tune?

not a fan either of their advertising practices.

Baseline dynos done on 87 octane, then they show a tune with 93 octane to increase their gains. No thanks.

I could be 100% wrong though I thought they wouldn't provide you a computer without the vin-matched factory one as a swap?

it makes perfect sense for them to do that. wow though. looks like any reflash will be out of our future plans. if we do a catback exhaust on this will they try to deny warranty too? when does the madness end

Hate to say it but you are wrong.

You can buy a PCM from any dealer with any of the computer codes

http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/par...ROL&subgroup=POWERTRAIN CONTROL&component=ECM

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Hate to say it but you are wrong.

You can buy a PCM from any dealer with any of the computer codes

http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/par...ROL&subgroup=POWERTRAIN CONTROL&component=ECM

Thanks brother i now know what i am doing.........

 

[shark tales]

Hate to say it but you are wrong.

You can buy a PCM from any dealer with any of the computer codes

http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/par...ROL&subgroup=POWERTRAIN CONTROL&component=ECM

OMG you are the man! thank you!!

ok its a wrap. easy insurance right there

 

[D98GT]

Well if thats the case then I appreciate you posting the link. Someone should give it a shot and let us know how it goes. It's as simple as a computer swap?

 

[Rob72]

I'd get that PCM sent to your grandmother's house in her name using her cc.

 

[VTXFrank]

Your keys will have to be programmed to work with the new computer. And you most likely have to have a Ford dealer do it. Would look kinda weird, and telling, if you brought in a blown motor car with keys that weren't programmed to the PCM.

 

[Rob72]

With my '07 you needed one working key to program another one yourself. If you didn't have any you would have to take it to the dealer.

 

[Seer]

Your keys will have to be programmed to work with the new computer. And you most likely have to have a Ford dealer do it. Would look kinda weird, and telling, if you brought in a blown motor car with keys that weren't programmed to the PCM.

if this needs to happen and I am not sure it does. You can do this with an ids tool yourself.

 

[stkjock]

I'm not saying it can't work. However, as I recall the Ford TSB on the #8 issue, the tech is charged with inspecting the car for signs of modifications, so one better do a damn clean job of doing any swap so that it would appear none of the stock parts look like they have been removed and replaced.

 

[Seer]

I'm not saying it can't work. However, as I recall the Ford TSB on the #8 issue, the tech is charged with inspecting the car for signs of modifications, so one better do a damn clean job of doing any swap so that it would appear none of the stock parts look like they have been removed and replaced.

I agree with you, and I am not saying we should find ways to defraud Ford, but PCM swaps is VERY common in other car areas.

Evo's, BMW 335i's, Hyundai Genesis etc all do this pretty common. All of them have similar system architecture that the Ford has as well.