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LOL and the best bassist usually start as guitarist that couldn't cut it. Bassist are the snipers of the stringed instrument world - One string = 1 finger.
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Anyone can play guitar or bass. Stringed instruments are the easiest to play, right next to drums. I came from years of playing trumpet, french horn, and mellophone. If all you can play is a stringed instrument, you really can't talk down on a bassist or drummer. :moon:
 

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Anyone can play guitar or bass. Stringed instruments are the easiest to play, right next to drums. I came from years of playing trumpet, french horn, and mellophone. If all you can play is a stringed instrument, you really can't talk down on a bassist or drummer. :moon:
I have to beg to differ on strings being "easier" than winds. I play/have played a lot of both and I will say that it is initially easier to get something that sounds like a guitar out of a guitar than say a french horn, but to play it well is in some ways harder and requires much more coordination and ambidextrous hand skills...

Until you get into multiphonics with a wind instrument, you are only ever playing one note at a time. Moreover, your hands don't have far to go to move from one note to the next and while there are multiple ways to play any given notes (more so on brass than winds, though not exclusively), there are far fewer than on guitar... How many ways can you play an F scale on a brass instrument? There isn't a whole lot of strategy to which finger you press down on a wind instrument - on a stringed instrument, you have to think (or at least plan) ahead to what you have to play next...

There are a lot of people who "get by" on guitar with a hand full of simple chords, but far fewer "master" the instrument to say the collegiate level of techincal skill - thus the jokes about rock being "the same 3 chords"...
 

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See my Victor Wooten videos above.


Anyone can play guitar or bass. Stringed instruments are the easiest to play, right next to drums. I came from years of playing trumpet, french horn, and mellophone. If all you can play is a stringed instrument, you really can't talk down on a bassist or drummer. :moon:

When I need a "lead bassist" I'll give him a call. As for anyone playing guitar or bass? Sure. But the Xbox and PS3 versions don't count.

Which one is harder to play?

or
 
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I have to beg to differ on strings being "easier" than winds. I play/have played a lot of both and I will say that it is initially easier to get something that sounds like a guitar out of a guitar than say a french horn, but to play it well is in some ways harder and requires much more coordination and ambidextrous hand skills...

Until you get into multiphonics with a wind instrument, you are only ever playing one note at a time. Moreover, your hands don't have far to go to move from one note to the next and while there are multiple ways to play any given notes (more so on brass than winds, though not exclusively), there are far fewer than on guitar... How many ways can you play an F scale on a brass instrument? There isn't a whole lot of strategy to which finger you press down on a wind instrument - on a stringed instrument, you have to think (or at least plan) ahead to what you have to play next...

There are a lot of people who "get by" on guitar with a hand full of simple chords, but far fewer "master" the instrument to say the collegiate level of techincal skill - thus the jokes about rock being "the same 3 chords"...
I am not a master on the guitar. I was a master on the french horn. I always felt like being one of the better horn players took more practice than playing my guitar. If I could devote enough time, mastering the guitar would be simple. For now, I just have to keep it as a hobby. I enjoy my engineering paycheck too much to give that up. I do envy people who get to play for a living.
 
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I always felt like being one of the better horn players took more practice than playing my guitar.
What were/are you playing on guitar? There's a pretty wide gap between simple stuff like Louie Louie and more complex stuff like Bach, Zeppelin, etc...

As I was saying, you can get some very nice "instant gratification" on guitar. Nice sounds, some popular music with less effort than it takes not sound like a pinched (out of tune) fart on the french horn.

However, going to the next level with guitar optimizing picking technique, finger picking, hammer/pull, harmonics, chord substitution and voicing, etc... Is another issue entirely... Much more music theory and physical conditioning required.
 

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Some fun zeppelin for technique practice...


I love playing this one - makes any bad day better...
 

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What were/are you playing on guitar? There's a pretty wide gap between simple stuff like Louie Louie and more complex stuff like Bach, Zeppelin, etc...

As I was saying, you can get some very nice "instant gratification" on guitar. Nice sounds, some popular music with less effort than it takes not sound like a pinched (out of tune) fart on the french horn.

However, going to the next level with guitar optimizing picking technique, finger picking, hammer/pull, harmonics, chord substitution and voicing, etc... Is another issue entirely... Much more music theory and physical conditioning required.
Zep? One of the first songs I learned how to play on the guitar was No Quarter. Led Zeppelin is not what I would consider really technical. SRV, Hendrix, and even Clapton were always so much more advanced players than Page. Not that Page wasn't decent. He had his moments, but never really stood out for me.
 

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Zep? One of the first songs I learned how to play on the guitar was No Quarter. Led Zeppelin is not what I would consider really technical. SRV, Hendrix, and even Clapton were always so much more advanced players than Page. Not that Page wasn't decent. He had his moments, but never really stood out for me.
IMHO, his most impressive stuff is not the most popular.

SRV, hendrix, Clapton are also good examples of techincal - I just picked something random I had played in the last few hours and play frequently as an example...

Over the hills for its hammer/pull (even more fun on a 12string) and Babe I'm gonna leave you for its finger picking and transitions... I like stuff that is techincal outside the solo and sounds deceptively simple... No quarter has some good stuff in the solo, but the rest is really easy stuff...

SRV and Clapton are amazing but put themselves in a blues box much of the time from a composition standpoint (though some of SRV's covers of Hendrix are better played than Jimmy played them...)

Hendrix vs Page I have to give Page the overall nod for range of composition, but obviously Hendrix was cut short. He certainly was outside the box eough to do some amazing things given time...
 

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How many drummers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?



None, they have electronic machines that do that now
 

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That's how Def Leppard gets by. Damn one armed drummers and shitty music seem to go together nicely.

And how did he lose his arm? Hmmm?



Since Santa Claus (you know, the vato with the hair on his jaws) is going to bring me a Gretsch, my "only" 2009 resolution is to try and pick up on this style...



Now THAT'S some kick-ass pickin'. And no heavy effects to cover up slop...
 
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Def Leppard was at the top prior to the drummer losing his arm in a car wreck.
His Fault BTW.
They just sorta dropped out for awhile until he recovered and retaught himself to play.
Sorta a kewl story really.
We saw the Def two years ago here in Utah.
They are getting old and the voices are weaker.
But they still PLAY LIKE HELL!!!!!

Loved it!!
Was a Leppard fan from WAAAAYYYY Back when they were just a bunch of punks on the scene.
For a Big Hair Band they got to be one of the best. At least in the Top 10.
 

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Now THAT'S some kick-ass pickin'. And no heavy effects to cover up slop...
Another victim of Rock-a-billy...

It's been nice knowing you... :roflmao:

I really admire some of the greats in the style for technique, but don't care to listen to it...
 

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Another victim of Rock-a-billy...

It's been nice knowing you... :roflmao:

I really admire some of the greats in the style for technique, but don't care to listen to it...

LOL, I'm trying to slop some out right now. I think the cool thing about Setzer is he isn't shy about playing solos on more than one string at the same time. Oh wait, you're a bassist. Maybe someone else can explain that to you. :idea:
 

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Oh wait, you're a bassist. Maybe someone else can explain that to you. :idea:
Wrong, my thin stringed friend (in the voice of the penguin in Madagascar)...

As bass players go, I suck - guitar is/was my first instrument.

I hear you on the improv on multiple strings - been working on that myself (and improv in general) trying to get my chops back...

My first guitar teacher was a big fan of jazz guitar and rock-a-billy (same basic idea at a different speed). He played a lot of solo "ambiance" gigs where that came in handy...
 

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