Prevent the EPA from Banning Vehicle Modification!

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Seems like this always comes up around this time every year. Is it SEMA time again? Or part of the US budget? The timing is uncanny.
 

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Seems like this always comes up around this time every year. Is it SEMA time again? Or part of the US budget? The timing is uncanny.
From what I read SEMA didn't know about it till Jan 20.

The SEMA show was last fall.
 

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http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/epa-road-car-racecar-conversions-020916

The Environmental Protection Agency has issued a clarification in response to claims that it is proposing a ban on converting road vehicles into race cars.

The Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) issued a statement on Monday indicating its intention to fight an EPA proposal to change the wording to the Clean Air Act as it applies to the installation of aftermarket parts that might circumvent stock emission-control devices. But in a separate statement released to the media today, the EPA said that the proposed change is merely intended to clean up the wording of an existing law:

"People may use EPA-certified motor vehicles for competition, but to protect public health from air pollution, the Clean Air Act has – since its inception – specifically prohibited tampering with or defeating the emission control systems on those vehicles," the agency said in its statement.

"The proposed regulation that SEMA has commented on does not change this long-standing law, or approach. Instead, the proposed language in the Heavy-Duty Greenhouse Gas rulemaking simply clarifies the distinction between motor vehicles and nonroad vehicles such as dirt bikes and snowmobiles. Unlike motor vehicles – which include cars, light trucks, and highway motorcycles – nonroad vehicles may, under certain circumstances, be modified for use in competitive events in ways that would otherwise be prohibited by the Clean Air Act.

"EPA is now reviewing public comments on this proposal."

There is no wording in the proposal to outline how the rule might be policed and breaches penalized, and RACER is awaiting additional details regarding what sort of vehicles or circumstances might be eligible for exemption. Current modified-production racing takes place under the existing wording of the rules without any EPA intervention.

Even so, the reworded law – if passed – will not go into effect until 2018, and will not be retroactive. Consequently, current race-modified production cars appear unlikely to be affected either way.
 

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just like they said they were going to ban dark color paints on cars as it increases interior heta and thus makes cars run less efficiently as people would use their ac more.

it's all talking out their asses
 

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This is the same EPA that totally ignored the sky high lead levels in the water in flint mich. Even after hundreds of test samples done by experts from outside Mich.

On another note, my daughter was looking at subaru's 2 years ago..at a local dealer. One of the options was this $1150.00 ..'super clean, meets california emissions standards'... package. The oem cat was either replaced, or supplemented by this deluxe device. Only the enviro geeks bought it.

IMO, somebody has gone off the deep end with all this emissions crap. The standard cat is not a filter, nor absorption device. It just converts carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide. Great, now we trade in poison gas for global warming..... oops, I meant..'global climate change'.
 

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I really hope that this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Jalopnik contacted the EPA, who responded that this was specifically targeting track days, amateur drag racing, etc.

I I can never run a straight pipe, I'm OK with that. But what is the exact definition of "emissions control" or "certified vehicle"? Is the entire exhaust considered an emissions control? The PCM? The camshafts? Where is the line drawn?
 

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also on another note.
my friend used to do Wisconsin emission tests at his shop.
the guy running the test found out he was also doing tuning on cars, mostly mustangs. he went full government press on him stating doing ANY tuning changing the factory computer setting is tampering with emissions and can subject him to a fine. { he showed him EPA paperwork that states exactly that} so now whenever he does a tune the owner has to sign a waver stating the car will be used off road only. the owner must drop the car off on a trailer and must pick it up with a trailer. these were suggestions from his lawyer.
long story short, he doesn't do any tunes for people he doesn't know.

this could be one of the next EPA crackdowns. they revised Wisconsin OBD emission tests. it used to be 9 out of 10 readiness monitors had to read good to pass. you could turn off rear OX sensors and still pass. now if you have 9 out of 10 readiness monitors that read good but if any OX sensors don't read good you will fail the test.

I also signed it. after you sign it they also ask for $$$ to help spread the word. this reminds me of weekend warriors charity.
 
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The White House has one too, and just in the past hour it has gained 3,000 signs since I signed it (also doesn't ask for money). It gained another 1,000 in the 5 minutes I spent writing this post.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...posal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0

The deal is, the clause has already been there since the CAA was passed in the 60's. All they are doing is clarifying what is a "non-road" vehicle (tractors, construction equipment, ATVs, etc). However, they do not state they are changing any processes in how they are enforcing it. In most cases, it is up to the states to enforce the EPA regulations, and some states choose not to care (on some regulations) or pass the responsibility back to the EPA.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...t-the-epas-track-car-proposal-actually-means/

As stkjock posted, if it does go into effect, it will only matter to cars made 2018 and later. They can't enforce the restriction on cars produced before then. However, the response from the EPA is that if it hasn't been a problem now, as far as track cars go, it shouldn't be a problem if this were to pass. They seem to want to focus on cars used on the streets, not track-only cars.
 

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They seem to want to focus on cars used on the streets, not track-only cars.

But the way the "law" is written they can go after track cars any time they want and for any reason. It's a slippery slope.

The only way the aftermarket industry can survive is if the grey area of "off road use" exists. If the EPA removes that grey area, and they can, on a whim. The aftermarket industry will crater immediately. Then it doesn't matter if you're still allowed to mod your track car. No one will be making mods.

All it takes is one EPA crusader and the party is over.
 

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My concern is that just about every "go-fast" part out there, from air intakes to camshafts to turbochargers are often labeled "off-road use only," which means you'll essentially be able to do zero engine modifications to your street-driven car.

As stkjock posted, if it does go into effect, it will only matter to cars made 2018 and later. They can't enforce the restriction on cars produced before then.

The law was passed in the '60s. They can enforce it on all cars made since then, if they want to, starting in 2018. They are not creating a new law; they are "clarifying" existing regulations.
 

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How'd you like to be at kenne Bell, Roush, Vortech or even DOB when the cease and desist letter for "offroad vehicle" supercharger kits comes in from the EPA?
 

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Well, Roush at least makes 50-state-legal kits that still maintain emissions compliance. So they'll probably be OK.

But that would mean that any smaller company that can't afford to pay off the EPA with their "certifications" would basically be fucked.
 

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Well, Roush at least makes 50-state-legal kits that still maintain emissions compliance. So they'll probably be OK.

But that would mean that any smaller company that can't afford to pay off the EPA with their "certifications" would basically be fucked.

They have a CARB E.O. EPA could interpret modify strictly, i.e. no changes period.
 

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