CAI and tune 5.0 (moved)

[Mpeach1976]

What kind of gains will a CAI and tune produce? I've been eyeing Steeda's (tune required) CAI and tuner kit... is it worth the price for the gains in horsepower...?

 

[Wes06]

This is not tech on our board.

Please take a few moments and read through these:

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30272

http://s197forum.com/forum/announcement.php?f=19

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89602

To your question
Off road X - 10-15hp
LT Headers - 15-20
Tune - 25-30
Cams - 20-30

FI is much more cost effective for power gains per dollhair

As per your last post. Not tech

Coyote cais don't give much compared to previous year intakes

 

[RazorbackMustang]

Tune is where its at. I dropped .4 and gained 3 mph in the 1/4 from the Ford Racing tune over stock.

 

[king_13]

Tune is where its at. I dropped .4 and gained 3 mph in the 1/4 from the Ford Racing tune over stock.

Manual or Auto? Either way, it's a great improvement.


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[5lho]

Of all the CAis out there, none of which really do alot, because the power is all in the tune, the Steeda one is probably the best. The Tune is good too, from what I've heard of people using it.

I put a fully loaded '12 into the 11s on the Procal tune alone, with a sticky tire.

 

[RazorbackMustang]

Manual or Auto? Either way, it's a great improvement.


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Stick.

 

[KatoS197]

On Coyotes, stock airbox FTW. I'm getting an Airaid tube and just dropping a K&N filter into the stock box.

 

[spectreman]

What kind of gains will a CAI and tune produce? I've been eyeing Steeda's (tune required) CAI and tuner kit... is it worth the price for the gains in horsepower...?

On my former '14 GT, w/the Steeda CAI & their 91 tune, I picked up almost 30 RWHP & 30 ft/lb's of torque. Better yet, the tune was perfection- never had an issue of predetonation or damage to MPG- just a good solid, all around conservative tune. Highly recommend Steeda's work.
Lee

 

[Sky Render]

On my former '14 GT, w/the Steeda CAI & their 91 tune, I picked up almost 30 RWHP & 30 ft/lb's of torque. Better yet, the tune was perfection- never had an issue of predetonation or damage to MPG- just a good solid, all around conservative tune. Highly recommend Steeda's work.
Lee

...and about 29.5 of those horsepower are from the tune.

I got almost the exact same gains from a Ford Racing tune.

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[Grabber]

Intakes on the 5.0 won't do much. A tune will have a the single best gain aside from the following mods:

Intake Manifold
LT Headers
Cams

If anything, to make better use of your tune, get an O/R Mid-pipe or Cat-Deletes combined with the Intake and you will see higher gains, but, also see those gains at the track.

 

[Gabe]

Airaid Race CAI and a custom dyno tune put my car at 405 rwhp, 387 rwtq

Stock, these cars usually dyno about 360-365 rwhp on dynojet dynos, which is what I was on.

 

[deepimpact]

Steeda 101mm and tune I ran 12.20s all day @117 some 118

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Steeda 101mm and tune I ran 12.20s all day @117 some 118

Factory airbox & paper air filter and tune I run 11.60's all day @ 116-7 with some 118. What's your point?

 

[Grabber]

Hopefully this doesn't turn into "My dad can beat up your dad" bullshit.

 

[deepimpact]

Was on factory p zeros anyhow go with what you want I don't have time to argue online over dumb things it's all in the tune and all cars are different and drivers as well now running my tvs and radials going 10.70 no need to try to make a point at all just trying to help out with a question.

 

[wbt]

Intakes on the 5.0 won't do much. A tune will have a the single best gain aside from the following mods:

Intake Manifold
LT Headers
Cams

If anything, to make better use of your tune, get an O/R Mid-pipe or Cat-Deletes combined with the Intake and you will see higher gains, but, also see those gains at the track.

I can also tell you that the CJ intake manifold on a stock long block Coyote is no better than the Boss intake.

The exhaust side of the motor is the restriction, not the intake.

 

[Jason09GT]

Best way to eliminate the exhaust restrictions aside from full exhaust? Or doesthat rid all bottlenecks? Exhaust cams?

 

[wbt]

Best way to eliminate the exhaust restrictions aside from full exhaust? Or doesthat rid all bottlenecks? Exhaust cams?

If you can find some, the small lift longer duration CJ cams are dandy.

While in there some Boss valve springs on the exhaust side are handy too.

I bought the whole setup for ~$250 almost 2 years ago and they are still sitting on the shelf at the shop.

I did a set on another car recently that had a truck motor in it and the owner didn't know. I replaced the oil pump gear and pump, windage tray gasket, intake and exhaust cams and valve springs. Moved him to e85 as well.

Uncorrected on a Mustang dyno it made 450 to the tire, in 3rd gear, auto. No correction. Would probably have been in the 480's on a dynojet at the tire. (with the 10.5:1 truck motor and stock airbox)

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Was on factory p zeros anyhow go with what you want I don't have time to argue online over dumb things it's all in the tune and all cars are different and drivers as well now running my tvs and radials going 10.70 no need to try to make a point at all just trying to help out with a question.

Sorry, man, I just reread my post. Didn't mean to be a dick. I think we all agree that the magic is in the tune, not the CAI. CAI's look awesome under the hood; they just don't add any real power. Much like axlebacks sound awesome, but don't add power. Not every mod we do nets more power, but they may reward us in other measures.

 

[wbt]

Hopefully this doesn't turn into "My dad can beat up your dad" bullshit.

How about we start with the ridiculous amount of BS posted in this thread?

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?1114218-GT-s-with-Boss-IM-inside

...quite a bit from yourself.

First, the Boss intake is magnitudes cheaper to run than the CJ. It doesn't require a TB change and you can run the stock airbox by just replacing the intake tube.

Your math is wrong on all accords.

If you do the Boss and CJ with TB's and Intakes, the CJ is maybe $200-$300 more.

I see your times as:

I feel my cars down on mph but don't know anyone else with a auto stock converter car. Here's the MT82 time 11.40@121 1.58 ..... Auto swap with 3.73's and stock 255 brembo's it went 11.94@118 1.86 .... Just did 3.31's and now it runs [email protected] 1.96

Does this look right , isn't 113.9 low for my mods or is the converter killing my now with the 3.31's

...yet you somehow feel you have the authority to speak about how much better the CJ is over the Boss....

Laughable. I can point you to many stock intake and Boss intake cars that would spank that with ease with less mods.

Stop spreading the BS and mis-information, educate yourself and fix the shitty combination with your car.