Deal of the day for 05-14 owners

[5tangiac.0]

Advice. White mark the adjustable nuts. So you can tell easily if shit is loosing off on you.

That's been on for a while and it hasn't moved. It's actually a panhard bar for an f body.


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[808muscle]

Installed mine today. Out of the box it's a decent piece. Only beef was mine had something left inside of it that moved back and forth. Probably a piece welding wire. Hopefully it doesn't make noise while on the car but I doubt I'll hear it with the roush ab and Offroad h.

The Install took around 25 minutes. No directions but it's pretty damn straight forward. Would have taken less if it fit loose like the stock one. It was a tight squeeze and took some love taps from the hammer.

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Pretty blue color!!! Im gonna ask Dylan @ BMR what he thinks!!! LOL

 

[ponys197]

Installed mine as well. Way bigger and stiffer than the factory bar for sure. Mine had a piece of paper for instructions in the box. Only issue I had is the passenger side bolt was exiting facing the spring so it took some work / time to get it out. Lol you have the red and blue like I do as well. Now we just need something white back there!!!!

 

[Phil1098]

Only issue I had is the passenger side bolt was exiting facing the spring so it took some work / time to get it out.

I had the same thing, even tried getting it to go between the coils. Then I took it straight out as far as it would go and then angled it towards the driver side rear wheel. It fell out at that point, would take literally seconds to do it again.

 

[Boone]

I received mine last night. I took a few moments to explain to my wife why I spent money on an unnecessary blue part for a car that is still in the shop getting a motor installed in it. She only bought the "it's pretty" part of my speech until she realized it was UNDER the car. Oh well.

Btw, mine has the sliding noisemaker in it as well. Sounds like a golf club with a piece of epoxy sliding through it. Once installed it won't be as annoying as the golf club would be.

 

[MassMustang]

I received mine last night. I took a few moments to explain to my wife why I spent money on an unnecessary blue part for a car that is still in the shop getting a motor installed in it. She only bought the "it's pretty" part of my speech until she realized it was UNDER the car. Oh well.

Btw, mine has the sliding noisemaker in it as well. Sounds like a golf club with a piece of epoxy sliding through it. Once installed it won't be as annoying as the golf club would be.

I had a similar conversation since mine is sitting in the shop with the motor pulled. I went with "It was on clearance for $25 shipped. So I said why not?!"

 

[Average]

Thanks for the heads up, I picked one up as well. Not many listed left.

 

[avinaj80]

That was quite the exchange I just read... There is 3 left now as I have ordered one. Doesn't hurt to run it at all for the price...

 

[Pentalab]

That was quite the exchange I just read... There is 3 left now as I have ordered one. Doesn't hurt to run it at all for the price...

You can take the removed oem phb brace....and snap it like a twig. The oem PHB itself is more junk. The oem PHB comes with either lead shot..or sand inside it..and is non adjustable.

 

[Norm Peterson]

I really don't care if anybody feels that they have to replace this brace, as long as it's not because they were sucked in by all this "flimsy" and "snap like a twig" talk.

You can take the removed oem phb brace....and snap it like a twig. The oem PHB itself is more junk. The oem PHB comes with either lead shot..or sand inside it..and is non adjustable.

Here we go again with analogies and comparisons that are just plain wrong. This is what gets me, people who don't know squat about structural topics, or who are at least pretending not to, passing out bad/misleading structural information.

When was the last time your OE PHB brace or anybody else's that was installed on Ford's production line "snapped like a twig" in service? Cases involving tow ropes or flatbed tie-down straps wrapped around it don't count.

The OE PHB also does the job it was intended to do, maybe a bit more than the car itself was ever expected to do. It doesn't matter whether you like the OE approach to the problems it solves, it flat-out works until - like anything else - you go outside its design parameters.


Norm

 

[DevGittinJr]

^^ This.

The '05 FR500C's ran regular OE panhard bars and braces. In fact, all of the '05-'14 Mustang race cars came with the OE phb brace.

 

[5tangiac.0]

For $25 it couldn't hurt to replace the stock one with a beefier one. There's no downside. Your argument for having more damage done because of a beefier ph brace is ridiculous. Personally I don't mod my car thinking about what would happen if I crashed. If I had that mindset I would have bought a safer car to begin with. I read some of the threads about granatelli. Good thing this isn't a k member we're talking about. Just a brace that is replacing an already flimsy stock one.


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[DevGittinJr]

There's no downside.

Except for additional weight.

Just a brace that is replacing an already flimsy stock one.

False statement.

 

[5tangiac.0]

Actually it's not much heavier then the stock one. I should have weighed them. Maybe 2lb more tops. Come on. So the stock one is not flimsy? I am not saying it's not sufficient. But it definitely is flimsy.


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[DevGittinJr]

So the weight is relative but the term "flimsy" isn't? Even the CJ cars run OE phb brace. The only aftermarket phb brace that makes sense is the BMR one. That's because the bend adds clearance for those who need it. "Flimsy" is a marketing term when talking phb braces.

 

[5tangiac.0]

I am confused with your statement. If I showed you the two pieces, and you had no clue what it went on or what it did. Then I asked you which one you thought was sturdier/less flimsy, whatever you want to call it, you would chose the the stock piece?


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[DevGittinJr]

My statement wasn't at all confusing, so...

We do know what it's for, and we also know that the factory piece is sufficient even in extreme applications. Yes, off the car the aftermarket piece is glorious. In fact, on the car (statically) the OE piece does feel flimsy. Inside of it's intended use (dynamically), however, the OE piece is not at all flimsy, and an aftermarket brace is useless in terms of increasing performance. It's common knowledge at this point, as this is an old topic that's long been settled.

 

[5tangiac.0]

Ok so why are you posting in a thread where someone is talking about a deal on ph brace if you think a panhard brace is pointless. Thanks for trying to save me the $25 I appreciate it.


Edit: I would never buy the brace at full price because most likely any performance increase would be very minimal.


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[ArtQ]

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[Norm Peterson]

I am confused with your statement. If I showed you the two pieces, and you had no clue what it went on or what it did. Then I asked you which one you thought was sturdier/less flimsy, whatever you want to call it, you would chose the the stock piece?

If you don't know what a structural part is supposed to do or how it works, or even that it is a structural part - you have no business commenting on its strength or what you think is a lack of it. Nor should you be repeating claims of flimsiness or whatever other derogatory term you might have heard elsewhere.

Don't ask others to evaluate a part from the same lack of knowledge, so that they might come up with the same false opinion that you have. Two wrong answers are still both wrong.

If you need to know why I'm posting here even though there's little likelihood of me buying Granatelli's or anybody else's aftermarket PHB brace, that right there ↑↑↑ is most of it.


For a little constructive commentary . . . making a component stronger in a direction that does not need that additional strength does NOT make it better. Arguably, that makes it LESS EFFICIENT because it's using more material than necessary to do the same job that a lighter piece could do equally well.


Norm