2013 mustang gt- Catalyst l, O2 sensor and heated O2 NOT READY

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I purchased my 2013 mustang gt usted last year, it came with bolt-ons already. It had a boss intake manifold jlt cold air intake, SW catted long tube headers and MBRP catted x pipe with full exhaust. It had a BAMA tune and came with the tuner. This is the first year it's getting emissions testing and it failed. Catalyst, O2 and heated O2 were not ready. I've followed the drive cycles several times and several miles and obd 2 scanner still shows as incomplete. I contacted the people at BAMA and explained what was going on. They recommended a new tune to ensure that those sensors are ON. I installed and still no luck. Any advice or recommendations are greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of taking it to a local tuner at this point. The people at Bama weren't very helpful after I told I still had the same problem. Just told me to keep driving it. Thanks.
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Sounds like you have the handheld tuner. I'm unsure about the BOSS intake, but the rest of your mods shouldn't be a problem to return the vehicle to STOCK (No Bama) tune or anybodies tune) and see if the O2s come on for READY. I bet they do. Then go pass SMOG and put the tune back on
 

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Last year I had the same issue on my Whippled '13 .... ended up putting about 3,000 miles on the car while trying different tune revisions.

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Ended up going for a drive with my tuner, he was datalogging as I was driving. Did another revision, I think he changed fuel trims, and later that day after about 70 miles of mixed driving, the car went fully ready:


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Sounds like you have the handheld tuner. I'm unsure about the BOSS intake, but the rest of your mods shouldn't be a problem to return the vehicle to STOCK (No Bama) tune or anybodies tune) and see if the O2s come on for READY. I bet they do. Then go pass SMOG and put the tune back on
I was thinking of doing that, not sure if running stock tune would hurt it though with the mods I have.

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Last year I had the same issue on my Whippled '13 .... ended up putting about 3,000 miles on the car while trying different tune revisions.

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Ended up going for a drive with my tuner, he was datalogging as I was driving. Did another revision, I think he changed fuel trims, and later that day after about 70 miles of mixed driving, the car went fully ready:


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I've been thinking of either going with a local tuner or Lund Racing, I've been driving the car all over the place trying to get the monitors ready and following the drive cycles too.

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Yeah I did that too. Like I said above, I put over 3,000 miles on the car trying to get stuff ready. Nothing worked until datalogging with the tuner guy in the car
 

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Yeah I did that too. Like I said above, I put over 3,000 miles on the car trying to get stuff ready. Nothing worked until datalogging with the tuner guy in the car
Wow, that's a lot miles. So you ended up going with a local tuner. I'm debating between a local dyno tune or going with Lund Racing for an emailed tune.

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I sold my 2011 because I couldn't get my o2 sensors to come up ready. Couldn't register the car because it wouldn't pass emissions. I had several tunes including Lund. All with the sensors turned on WITH cats. The longtubes are one of your problems since the cats are now moved further downstream.
 

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It had a boss intake manifold jlt cold air intake, SW catted long tube headers

Sounds like you have the handheld tuner. I'm unsure about the BOSS intake, but the rest of your mods shouldn't be a problem to return the vehicle to STOCK (No Bama) tune or anybodies tune) and see if the O2s come on for READY. I bet they do. Then go pass SMOG and put the tune back on
Yea no. You can't run a JLT intake and longtubes on a stock tune never mind the Boss Intake.
 

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I spoke to Brenspeed and they said, O2 sensors don't heat up quick enough at relocated collector position they may spit out a code. This was happening to me and occurred in the spring and fall when outside temps were lower than summer. They sent me a new tune to handle this.
 

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I am in RI and went through similar BS last year when I bought my Roush.

If the monitors are turned off in the tune (it sounds like they are), then they will NEVER go 'ready'. This may seem obvious to most people, but the first Mustang shop (a place where they ONLY work on Mustangs) I went to last year, the guy hooks up his meter and says the monitors are showing 'not ready' and I need to do "drive cycles". So I did about 300 miles worth of PITA "drive cycles", then went back to the guy. He says, "monitors still not ready, keep driving". Well, this guy (who works on Mustangs ONLY) could not seem to figure out that the monitors were TURNED OFF in the tune and I could have driven a million miles and they would not have gone 'ready'.

Immensely frustrated, and now getting very nervous about passing the stinkin' State Emissions BS, I gave up on that guy and asked around for a Mustang tuner 'guru', and I found Pete at Performance Dyno in New Hampshire. I called him and he calmed me down. I made an appt with Pete, he tuned the car with a new "emissions" tune (saving the original 'power tune' on a SCT handheld), and then I did a couple of drive cycles of about 30 miles total and all monitors came 'ready'. I passed emissions with flying colors. and I got my sticker. I then used the SCT to reload the power tune and all is good.

So, IMHO, you need to find a good tuner that you can drive (or trailer) your car to. The first 'tuner' that I went to was absolutely worthless to me, so be careful. Good luck!!!
 
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I am in RI and went through similar BS last year when I bought my Roush.

If the monitors are turned off in the tune (it sounds like they are), then they will NEVER go 'ready'. This may seem obvious to most people, but the first Mustang shop (a place where they ONLY work on Mustangs) I went to last year, the guy hooks up his meter and says the monitors are showing 'not ready' and I need to do "drive cycles". So I did about 300 miles worth of PITA "drive cycles", then went back to the guy. He says, "monitors still not ready, keep driving". Well, this guy (who works on Mustangs ONLY) could not seem to figure out that the monitors were TURNED OFF in the tune and I could have driven a million miles and they would not have gone 'ready'.

Immensely frustrated, and now getting very nervous about passing the stinkin' State Emissions BS, I gave up on that guy and asked around for a Mustang tuner 'guru', and I found Pete at Performance Dyno in New Hampshire. I called him and he calmed me down. I made an appt with Pete, he tuned the car with a new "emissions" tune (saving the original 'power tune' on a SCT handheld), and then I did a couple of drive cycles of about 30 miles total and all monitors came 'ready'. I passed emissions with flying colors. and I got my sticker. I then used the SCT to reload the power tune and all is good.

So, IMHO, you need to find a good tuner that you can drive (or trailer) your car to. The first 'tuner' that I went to was absolutely worthless to me, so be careful. Good luck!!!
Greets, Im having the exact same issue as you, can your guy do an email tune?
If so can you send me his contact info...

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Last year when I tried e-mailing Pete I got no response. It is great when the tuner is close and you can take the car in. That isn't an option for a lot of people so it ends up being a pita process of datalogging, re-tuning, etc.. And that is if you can get hold of someone competent in the first place.

If the state is OBD2 only and there is no visual or sniff test. Then there is a way to get around it even without cats on the car. The method may not work forever, but I do know it can and does occasionally still work.

My car had no cats, monitors and tests were enabled. It would never EVER go ready. I tried defoulers for a couple hundred miles of driving and it made no difference. I'm sorry to see some people sell a car over this sort of issue. How frustrating is that.

Plan A was to try and get mine passed with the tune I had on it. Plan B was to modify the tune, and C was to put the cats back on the car.

PM me if you want help.
 
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I know this is an old thread but I wanted to add something that I figured out while trying to ready my boss last month. If your car is a manual and you’re having a hard time readying the monitors, high gear low rpm. Most cars are automatic so at 40 mph it’s in sixth gear and 1500 rpm. That’s where it’s going to do the test. So if you have a manual trans and can’t ready the monitors, try 40 mph in sixth gear low rpm.
 

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My original tune from VMP was way too rich on cold start.
Would throw CE light in winter for EGT too low, which is must infer somehow,
as there is no EGT sensor.

Anyway, they re-did tune and it is fine now. I believe they were "happy"
to redo tunes for any emission issues, after the fallout from the diesel
tuners and the EPA.
 

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From personal experience, on a stock 2013 tune AND Crate_6 strategies, you need to complete 4 drive cycles before the pcm will even try to run cat and O2 monitors. The other 5 monitors must be complete first.
I have a 25 mile one way commute, two days going to work completes the first 5, leaving the cat and O2 monitors to run last. This is also when I start seeing LTFT fuel trims go active.
 

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