Mastering the art of the S197 3 link suspension (sixty foot)

[chad05gt]

Chad are you spinning? out of the hole?

Yup, something still isnt quite right... its been my EVEREST.

I really think my relocation brackets are welded not quite correctly, thus may be why my TR6060 does 'work' with 3650 driveshaft...

Something geometrically isnt jiving back there; may be the 'twisty' suspension set up as a whole.

Im going to get a good go over of relocation brackets, welds, ds, etc. during build... BUT, will be going back with GT500 SPortlines and 14" Saleen brakes w/ 20" ADR's (so I can have some DR's... damn 19"s..).
So, the front skinnies will go; or NOT go anymore...but, thats just where the car is evolving.

 

[TurboPete]

1.40 60ft

Steeda Lwr Billet Control Arms
Metco 3rd adj link
Steeda Adj Drag Suspension
Coil Over Frt 225# rate
Coil over rear 162# rate
D-Spec Coil over Frt Strut
D-Spec Rear Shocks
Steeda Hardcore AntiRoll Bar
BMR Panhard Brace
BMR Adj Panhard bar
CHE Axle Brace
3.27 Rear Gears
325/50/15 Mickey Thompson Drag Radials
4R70W ATF Stage 4 Tranny
3400 PI Multi disk converter
2 step set at 4100
Launch Boost 10#s off the Trans Brake.






Pete

 

[stkjock]

TR3650 Tranny
- Shocks -stock
- Rear springs -steeda sport
- Lower control arms - steeda adj lca
- Upper control arm - steeda street/strip uca
- posi -detroit truetrak
- Pan hard bar steeda adj
- Pan hard bar support brace - steeda
- Gear size - 4.10
- Brand/ tire size - MT ET SR II 265/40/18
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? Spec 3+
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar -Steeda Rear Sway

Also Steeda LCA Relocation Brackets
60s typically 1.6-1.7x, best est @ 1.59 (clocks not working)

Suspension set up by Dan Carlson @ Realspeed Auto. Car has always launched well.

Sweet spot with the set up is a 4700 launch with the tires at 17psi

 

[blackstallion06]

Shocks/struts - Stock
upper control arm-stock
lower control arms - non adj stang suspension ( i know I need to change)
pan hard bar-steeda
pan hard bar brace- steeda
gears- 4:10
wheels- jegs stars ( thanks to post for wheel fitment)
front skinnys with m/t 26x4 1/2
rear m/t 26x15
clutch- stock
springs- ford racing
steeda rad/sway bar delete ( swar bar still on car)

best time: 1.6 60ft 7.965 in the 1/8th

 

[AlbertD]

- Shocks - Stock
- Rear springs - Stock
- Lower control arms - Steeda non-adj w/ BMR relocation brackets
- Upper control arm - J&M non-adj
- posi - Stock
- Pan hard bar - Stock
- Pan hard bar support brace - Stock
- Gear size - 4.10s
- Brand/ tire size - 26x4.5x15s MT ET fronts and 26x11.5x15s MT ET Streets
- Clutch - Exedy Mach 400 w/ Fidanza Steel Flywheel
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar - stock

Mid 1.6s launching between 5500-6000 with some spin through first.

 

[jroc07gt]

stock shocks
bmr front and rear springs
bmr lca's
bmr adj uca
bmr anti squat brackets
bmr adj panhard
front sway removed
ph 1 pc ds
stock clutch
4.10s
heavy 03 cobra replicas with 275 40 17 555r's

cut a few 1.68-1.69 but avg low 1.7s leaving at 5200 cuz my pressure plate wouldnt allow me to go any higher

gonna try a bigger rear sway with adj end links when i get the money

 

[dragpac]

1.57 60'

STOCK upper
BMR lca&relo brackets
QA-1 set on 3
EATON posi w/4.88's
welded axel tubes
SUMMIT rims 15by8"
GOODYEAR 15by9 slicks @13lbs
CJ drag springs rear only
6500 rpm launch
STOCK clutch&drive shaft
race weight w/driver 3550-3600lbs










bmr

 

[Konablue10Gt]

1.51 60 ft 5-spd

Stock front K mem and rad support
Removed front sway bar
Stock trans and clutch
Alum d/s
Steeda Hardcare upper
UPR nonadj poly lowers
No relocation brackets
Adj panhard bar
Rear springs with 3/4 coil cut
Qa1 single adj rear shocks
Stock axles
Trac Lok polished with extra clutches
4.56's
15x9.5 Weld R/t's
28x10.50 Et drags stiff side wall around 12 psi
Launch 5000-6000 depending on conditions

 

[chad05gt]

1.51 60 ft 5-spd

Stock front K mem and rad support
Removed front sway bar
Stock trans and clutch
Alum d/s
Steeda Hardcare upper
UPR nonadj poly lowers
No relocation brackets
Adj panhard bar
Rear springs with 3/4 coil cut
Qa1 single adj rear shocks
Stock axles
Trac Lok polished with extra clutches
4.56's
15x9.5 Weld R/t's
28x10.50 Et drags stiff side wall around 12 psi
Launch 5000-6000 depending on conditions

I could swear I was able to launch better before I f'd with those things....


Great times, as usual

 

[Matt D]

I don't use the relocaters ither

 

[Pumpkinfish]

- Shocks - Koni Yellow adjustable (all 4 corners)
- Springs - Vogtland front / CJ rears
- Lower control arms - BMR non-adj w/ BMR relocation brackets
- Upper control arm - Steeda adj
- posi - true-trac
- Fays2 Watts Link
- Gear size - 4.10s
- Brand/ tire size - 275/60R15 M&H Rears / 185/75R15 M&H Fronts
- Level 10 5R55S with billet converter
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar - Progress Group rear sway bar

Mid 1.5s launching between 2000-2200

 

[zuritausmc]

- Shocks: Stock
- Rear springs Ground Force
- Lower control arms BMR spherical
- Upper control arm Stock
- Pan hard bar BMR
- Pan hard bar support brace Stock
- Gear size 3.31
- Brand/ tire size MT Drag 28x11.5x15 @ 15 psi
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? Stock Converter
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar Stock front and back

60 = 1.735 2000 launch

 

[ChevyKiller]

- Shocks - QA1 single adjustable rear
- Rear springs - Eibach Drag Launch
- Lower control arms - Metco race
- Upper control arm - racecraft
- Spool
- Pan hard bar - Steeda adjustable
- Gear size - 3.31
- Brand/ tire size - 29x12 Goodyear Dragway Specials
- 4000 stall converter with TH400 trans
- BMR extreme Anti roll bar
- QA1 Coilovers in front
- BMR tubular K-Member
- BMR Tubular A-Arms
- Fore Billet Diff Cover
- Currie built rear with 9" ends, 40 spline gun drilled axles, and 3650 yoke

1.21 60' - have not backed it up...yet

Multiple 1.29 60's

 

[GIG4FUN]

- Shocks - QA1 single adjustable rear
- Rear springs - Eibach Drag Launch
- Lower control arms - Metco race
- Upper control arm - racecraft
- Spool
- Pan hard bar - Steeda adjustable
- Gear size - 3.31
- Brand/ tire size - 29x12 Goodyear Dragway Specials
- 4000 stall converter with TH400 trans
- BMR extreme Anti roll bar
- QA1 Coilovers in front
- BMR tubular K-Member
- BMR Tubular A-Arms
- Fore Billet Diff Cover
- Currie built rear with 9" ends, 40 spline gun drilled axles, and 3650 yoke

1.21 60' - have not backed it up...yet

Multiple 1.29 60's

holy shit... that had to be a rush

 

[Redfire]

1.47 60'
- Shocks - Fronts stock / rear Tokico
- Rear springs - Stock
- Lower control arms - CHE
- Upper control arm - CHE adjustable
- posi - Detroit Locker
- Pan hard bar - Stock
- Pan hard bar support brace - Stock
- Gear size - 3.73
- Brand/ tire size - MT 295/45/17 Drag Radial
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? - PI 3700 / 4R70W
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar - Stock rear sway bar
- 2 step set at 3300 using foot brake
- Stock front tires and wheels. Stock rear wheels widened 2"

 

[TungstenGT06]

- Shocks - Front/Rear Stock
- Rear springs - CJ springs Front/Rear
- Lower control arms - CHE with Relo brackets
- Upper control arm - Stock
- posi - Stock
- Pan hard bar - Stock
- Pan hard bar support brace - Stock
- Gear size - 4.10
- Brand/ tire size - M&H 275/50/17 @ 18psi
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? - Stock converter. PTC going in now.
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar - Stock
- 1500 to 1750 RPM launch. Stock 18" front wheels.
Best 60'- 1.559

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[2005mach1]

wow - great info

 

[LAK3RS]

- UPR Swaybar Delete
- BMR Non-Adjustable A-Arms
- CHE Adjustable Poly Upper Control Arm
- Stock Upper Control Arm Mount
- CHE Tubular Poly/Poly Lower Control Arms
- CHE LCA Relocation Brackets
- CHE Adjustable Poly/Poly Panhard Bar
- CHE Panhard Brace
- Stock Rear Swaybar
- Stock Struts
- Stock Shocks
- Stock Springs
- Stock Differential
- FRPP 4.10 Gears
- Spydershaft
- Stock Converter
- Nitto 555 295/45/18's

High 2.0's-2.1 60 ft's (Yeah, I've never gotten out of the 2.0's! Even when using ET Streets)

Launch at idle

 

[weeloGT]

awesome thread matt!!!! im getting ready to order the final pieces to complete the rear end and hit the track within the next 3 weeks, work has kept me from it up to this point but im tired of wearing out a perfect set of drag radials just driving around town

 

[antonio1988]

Two quick question while on this topic... first, I have CHE Relocation Brackets waiting to be installed, do they HAVE to be welded or will I be just fine just having them bolted in? Second question is, when swapping back to stock springs (I have CHE LCA's, Steeda Adj. UCA, UPR Adj. Panhard), what setting's should I use for my D-Specs (with 17" ET Streets on the rear and 20s on the front)? Thanks guys, just trying to hook by spraing out of the hole