Edelbrock E-FORCE looking for some input.

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Is the vaccum reading with the TMAP sensor or just boost. I know you said -10 was reading on yours at idle but if I remember correctly there should be greater vaccum than that at idle right? Or just when decelerating?
The TMAP sensor is a single sensor that reads both temperature and pressure. The Aeroforce is reading pressure/vacuum in psi not inches of mercury. It should read around -10lbs at idle which is approximately 20" of vacuum. It may go a tad lower during deceleration but only in decimals. Atmospheric pressure is roughly 14.7 lbs at sea level so -14.7 lbs would be an absolute vacuum which exists only in theory. If you were to ever see -14.7 on the gauge, then it is not accurate.
 

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I have an Aeroforce and keep a close eye on my IATs. Back in the winter when it was in the 50s and 60s, my IAT would hold around 80 degrees while driving around normally. Under full throttle boost through the 1/4 mile, it would climb to around 120-125 degrees. In the summer heat, like we are having now (95-100 degrees), my IAT usually stays around 115-120 degrees while cruising around with the AC on. In stop and go traffic it sometimes clims to 130. Under boost, it goes up to the mid 130s. I think the highest I have seen it is around 140. I have had no issues with belts, pulleys, etc. I always check for belt dust around the snout (indication of slippage) and have seen none thus far.
I have mine set up to read boost from the TMAP sensor that comes on the Aeroforce. Here is a writeup that I did explaining how to do it.


Thanks for the info and write-up. I'll be looking at do this next week once my Competition CAI finally comes in. I've been waiting close to 6 months for the CAI kit. Edelbrock is now making there own production MAFS. No more middleman!

Thanks,
Mitch
 

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So not that I'm ready to order the E-force the price has gone up about $500 on every place I've checked. A short time ago Summit had them down to $5550. Now they are around $6200 and more. Where is the best place to buy one? I will likely need the extra $500 for drag radials.
 

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Best price i found was superchargersonline.com. send an email to get a price quote and you'll probably get a better price than what's advertised.
 

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I you are not ready to buy, just keep watching for deals as they do come up quite regularly. With a Fathers Day discount code, Dallas Mustang had them in the low $5K range back in June.
 

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I love the idea of the high volume low pressure for a stock bottom 3v motors.
 
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Does you guys know if anyone still has them at the old prices? I would assume not
 

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There has been a few of us on the forum trying to figure out exactly how to hook up 0-5V analog signal from the TMAP on the E-Force supercharger to the Aeroforce Interceptor. This info applies to anyone trying to use a 0-5V MAP sensor with an Aeroforce. I have been working on this for several days and finally got the information. First, I will say that Edelbrock's customer service is as good as their supercharger. They are outstanding and will go out of there way to help you. I talked with an engineer there and he dug up the info that I needed. Here how it works. First, you will need a pigtail from your Ford parts dept. It is part number 3U2Z-14S411-SSA. It costs around $25.00. You will unpin 2 wires from it and repin them into slots 1 and 2 in the TMAP connector that Edelbrock sends in their kit. These slots are empty. You then need to take the wire from pin 1 (1st slot) and run it to one of the anolog inputs on the back of the Interceptor. The wire from pin 2 is your 5v source wire. It needs to be spliced into the wire going into pin 2 on the fuel rail sensor. It is very important to solder and heatshrink this connection. You can see in the pictures I posted how this is done. Once this is done, take a voltmeter and make sure you have the 5V source on terminal 2 of the fuel rail connector as well as pin 2 on the TMAP connector. Once this is confirmed, you can plug up the connectors and wrap up all the wires. Now the Interceptor has to be programmed to read the signal and display the information properly. You need to enable the analog input that you are using in the setup menu. It will ask you to put in the Slope and Intercept values. The slope value is 6.5. The Intercept value is -1.5 - atmospheric pressure. If your at sea level that would -1.5-14.7 or -16. If you are at 1000 feet then it would be -1.5-14.3 or -15.8. you may have to play around with the values a little to get it perfect. You will know you are right when the boost reading is around -10 at idle. Mine is working perfectly. I have about 6lbs of boost until I get in the upper rpms. It then climbs a little to almost 7. It work great. If anyone needs more info, just pm me.


KDT,

Thanks for the write-up -- your instructions and info were dead-on accurate! I just installed the gauge this afternoon and everything is working as advertised. At first it's a bit of a PITA to configure, but eventually I got the used going through the menus and configuring the options. Right now I'm just monitoring IAT, Boost, Coolant Temp. Inj DC, and Fuel Press. Eventually I will install the oil pressure sensor kit and monitor that as well.

-Mitch
 

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KDT,

Thanks for the write-up -- your instructions and info were dead-on accurate! I just installed the gauge this afternoon and everything is working as advertised. At first it's a bit of a PITA to configure, but eventually I got the used going through the menus and configuring the options. Right now I'm just monitoring IAT, Boost, Coolant Temp. Inj DC, and Fuel Press. Eventually I will install the oil pressure sensor kit and monitor that as well.

-Mitch
Congrats. I really like the Aeroforce. I am using both analog inputs on mine. One for wideband and one for boost. I also want to do oil pressure. I just wish the Aeroforce had a third input so I could just run the op signal to it and maintain the 1 gauge stealth look. I will have to add another Aeroforce or op gauge to read it. I will definitely add something when I upgrade to a forged shortblock.
 

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I used your info as well and got my dual interceptor set-up installed and hooked one into the TMAP sensor on the e-force.
 

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For anyone who installed the E-force...How did the car feel afterwards in terms of braking, balance and handling? It will be a while before I can do anything about those 2 issues. I don't know the exact weight but I think it adds 100-125 lbs to the front of the car.
 

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I run mine straight line so I can't really give you any handling info. Braking at the track doesn't feel any different though.
 

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For anyone who installed the E-force...How did the car feel afterwards in terms of braking, balance and handling? It will be a while before I can do anything about those 2 issues. I don't know the exact weight but I think it adds 100-125 lbs to the front of the car.

The E-Force assembly weighs 90 lbs. I don't know what the stock plenum weighs, but its a lot less than 90 lbs.

The weight of the E-Force and this heavy fiberglass hood on my car caused my stock suspension to sag 1.5 inches over a period of months.

I have since upgraded to Steeda Competition springs (mild front drop) and Koni STR.T's.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry to revive this thread from the dead. I'm a new member, and I've been searching the forums for some answers on Edelbrock's E-Force supercharger for our cars, and I figured it'd be better to post in here then to start an entire new thread. So apologies in advance if that annoys anyone, and definitely not trying to thread-jack here. (does that even count anymore given this thread is almost 6 years old? lol)

Question: My question is, can the E-Force Stage 1 kit itself be upgraded, or will I have to purchase one of the other kits to reap the benefits of upgrading?

Background:
I'll be upgrading my factory 4.6 3v with 63,000 miles on it. I'll have the engine apart in the next two months to upgrade to forged rods and pistons. I'll be running the factory CR for reliability, as I've read our engines do not tolerate anything lower than 9.0:1 fairly well.

Ultimate goal is to have a 650 RWHP daily driver. I believe the block and crank have the ability to handle that much power, but feel free to chime in if I'm wrong. In terms of forced induction, I am highly considering the E-Force Stage 1 kit because it's a TVS blower, it's CARB legal (I'm a CA resident), and my work can get me an amazing deal on one.

Searching through the thread, it looks like the gents over at JDM Engineering have taken one of the E-Force kits (upgraded) to over 700RWP, and I'm hoping someone here can confirm this is possible to achieve with the Stage 1 kit initially.

Thanks again!
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry to revive this thread from the dead. I'm a new member, and I've been searching the forums for some answers on Edelbrock's E-Force supercharger for our cars, and I figured it'd be better to post in here then to start an entire new thread. So apologies in advance if that annoys anyone, and definitely not trying to thread-jack here. (does that even count anymore given this thread is almost 6 years old? lol)

Question: My question is, can the E-Force Stage 1 kit itself be upgraded, or will I have to purchase one of the other kits to reap the benefits of upgrading?

Background:
I'll be upgrading my factory 4.6 3v with 63,000 miles on it. I'll have the engine apart in the next two months to upgrade to forged rods and pistons. I'll be running the factory CR for reliability, as I've read our engines do not tolerate anything lower than 9.0:1 fairly well.

Ultimate goal is to have a 650 RWHP daily driver. I believe the block and crank have the ability to handle that much power, but feel free to chime in if I'm wrong. In terms of forced induction, I am highly considering the E-Force Stage 1 kit because it's a TVS blower, it's CARB legal (I'm a CA resident), and my work can get me an amazing deal on one.

Searching through the thread, it looks like the gents over at JDM Engineering have taken one of the E-Force kits (upgraded) to over 700RWP, and I'm hoping someone here can confirm this is possible to achieve with the Stage 1 kit initially.

Thanks again!

The Edelbrock can be upgraded, we have 2 packages we sell that are turn key for your car. My old Yellow mustang made 654 RWHP Max and ran 9.6's so it has ability to do that when fully maxed out. On a stock engine your going to stick around 450-500 HP at the tires however.

Call me if you have any questions we would be happy to help.

JimIII
 

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I have a stage 1 setup with a smaller pulley on a stock long block. So it is upgraded and works great but I'm at 440rwhp, which is about as far as I'd want to push it with stock internals.

It sounds like those monster numbers are possible though. Good luck!
 

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