Bolt on definition: A poll

What is a bolt on?

  • Anything that can be bolted on the exterior of the motor, including power adders.

    Votes: 33 17.5%
  • Only certain items like intake, tb, cai, headers, etc.

    Votes: 135 71.4%
  • Anything that can be installed by turning a wrench including internal components.

    Votes: 7 3.7%
  • What's a bolt?

    Votes: 14 7.4%

  • Total voters
    189

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Defying the english language and the dictionary doesn't make you or the GM guys look any smarter.

Should I start "muffler only" for my car?

I was joking on another forum, telling people we should start a CAI only or intake only thing for 5.0 guys. have every other possible thing done but cams or heads or poweradder and say, cai only. that'll get some feathers ruffled from the GM crews ;) what? running bottom 11s? what do you have done? oh intake only.
 

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I was joking on another forum, telling people we should start a CAI only or intake only thing for 5.0 guys. have every other possible thing done but cams or heads or poweradder and say, cai only. that'll get some feathers ruffled from the GM crews ;) what? running bottom 11s? what do you have done? oh intake only.

We should make it wide spread it's not like they can argue against it lol
I would say the new 5.0's are running 11's filter only
What are they going to say? "but it's not just filter only!" :evillaugh:
 
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Even though this thread took a serious deviation, I will stay on track and give my definition of bolt -on (and I believe this is as close as you are going to get to the accepted definition)

Bolt-On = Non major components that bolt directly to the engine: I.E Underdrive Pulleys, C.A.I, CMDP's (for S197's of course) etc.

Exhaust = Different sub-category, as in full exhaust (headers, midpipe, mufflers and or axle-backs.

H/C/I = Not a bolt on, hence why people refer to cars a Heads, Cam(s), Intake (also not to be confused as C.A.I but the physical intake manifold)

Power Adders: Superchargers, Turbochargers and (YES!!) N2O are classified as such and are not considered Bolt-On's.

Fuel systems don't really fall under 'bolt-on' either and are usually referred to separately. It is also debatable whether or not drivetrain components can be clasified as a bolt-on but to me, when someone says my car has full 'bolt-ons', drivetrain usually is not considered. This is the same for ignition as I have always understood these components referred to as their own category as well.

Thats my definition and how I grew up understanding it.
 

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Even though this thread took a serious deviation, I will stay on track and give my definition of bolt -on (and I believe this is as close as you are going to get to the accepted definition)

Bolt-On = Non major components that bolt directly to the engine: I.E Underdrive Pulleys, C.A.I, CMDP's (for S197's of course) etc.

Exhaust = Different sub-category, as in full exhaust (headers, midpipe, mufflers and or axle-backs.

H/C/I = Not a bolt on, hence why people refer to cars a Heads, Cam(s), Intake (also not to be confused as C.A.I but the physical intake manifold)

Power Adders: Superchargers, Turbochargers and (YES!!) N2O are classified as such and are not considered Bolt-On's.

Fuel systems don't really fall under 'bolt-on' either and are usually referred to separately. It is also debatable whether or not drivetrain components can be clasified as a bolt-on but to me, when someone says my car has full 'bolt-ons', drivetrain usually is not considered. This is the same for ignition as I have always understood these components referred to as their own category as well.

Thats my definition and how I grew up understanding it.

I can agree with that. My only point about the intake is if you can remove and reinstall it, you can bolt on a supercharger just as easy. Thats why i asked the not so serious question above.
 

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Defying the english language and the dictionary doesn't make you or the GM guys look any smarter.

Should I start "muffler only" for my car?
this reminds me of several years ago when we were talking about lowering the compression in my 2V GT...Ed Thomas (back to back NMRA Renegade champion 99-00) said "you should put a piston in it."

now for those who want to take things that are said literally, that would suggest that i put ONE low compression pistion in the car.

however, i knew that he was suggesting putting not one, but EIGHT low compression pistons in it. how? because its just the lingo.

i thought everyone knew what "cam only" meant. i guess not. :oops1:
 

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this reminds me of several years ago when we were talking about lowering the compression in my 2V GT...Ed Thomas (back to back NMRA Renegade champion 99-00) said "you should put a piston in it."

now for those who want to take things that are said literally, that would suggest that i put ONE low compression pistion in the car.

however, i knew that he was suggesting putting not one, but EIGHT low compression pistons in it. how? because its just the lingo.

i thought everyone knew what "cam only" meant. i guess not. :oops1:

I can't say I'm the smartest person around but I can tell you I adhere to the english language and know definitions of words, while the piston example you said can easily be sorted out.

Saying cam ONLY is in a different category of "lingo" that would most be similar to the GM crowd.
When you say ____ only you are indeed indicating that there is nothing else done but ____ ONLY, so it's a bit different.
Now I'm not dumb but when I first heard that term years ago.
I actually thought that meant there is nothing but a cam in the car, why would I think otherwise not being from a GM crowd? and also passing english classes.

Regardless at the end of the day the word ONLY has a definition.
 
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I just don't think that individual people decide what certain lingo and sayings and terms mean. So regardless if a couple of people think a term is dumb or stupid, the majority is who decides the terms not the minority or the individual.
 

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So then "filter only" for an 11 sec 5.0 would be acceptable. :thumb:
 

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I just don't think that individual people decide what certain lingo and sayings and terms mean. So regardless if a couple of people think a term is dumb or stupid, the majority is who decides the terms not the minority or the individual.

At one time the majority of people thought the world was flat.
 

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I can't say I'm the smartest person around but I can tell you I adhere to the english language and know definitions of words, while the piston example you said can easily be sorted out.

Saying cam ONLY is in a different category of "lingo" that would most be similar to the GM crowd.
When you say ____ only you are indeed indicating that there is nothing else done but ____ ONLY, so it's a bit different.
Now I'm not dumb but when I first heard that term years ago.
I actually thought that meant there is nothing but a cam in the car, why would I think otherwise not being from a GM crowd? and also passing english classes.

Regardless at the end of the day the word ONLY has a definition.
while i see your point, its precisely the "lingo" that separates the wannabes from the real deals.
when i used to do a lot of street racing, you could always tell who actually knew what they were talking about from the ones who didnt just by what they were saying...their "lingo".

when i had nitrous on my 01 GT. anyone who said i had "naws" instantly lost credibility with me. it still irritates me to hear people call nitrous "naws". but thats the ricer lingo! :)
 
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