25 Greatest Mustangs

Discussion in 'Mustang Chit Chat' started by 07 Boss, Jun 27, 2020.

  1. kerrynzl

    kerrynzl forum member

    They can be made into good looking competition cars.
    eg: High cut wheel arches and dumped into the weeds to give that oval track look.

    Dyno Don's Mustang II pro-stock looks timeless

    In NZ we have the famous "PDL" Mustang II that ran against [and slaughtered] the "DeKon" Monzas [TransAm road racing]

    Maybe it's just the yellow / red paint scheme
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  2. tjm73

    tjm73 of Omicron Persei 8 S197 Team Member

    I feel they have a critical design flaw. The front wheel opening is a few inches too far back. It needs to move forward 3-4".

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  3. RED09GT

    RED09GT Senior Member S197 Team Member

    What I meant is that for the mid 70's they were actually a decent looking car, at least compared to everything else.

    Pontiac probably had some of the best looking cars for the era.
  4. Flusher

    Flusher Member

    An altered would be sick! I would move the front wheel opening to just behind the front bumper. I always wanted to build my '70 A body Mopar as if the A/FX class continued into the '70s.
  5. tjm73

    tjm73 of Omicron Persei 8 S197 Team Member

    Pintos have the same problem.
  6. pwd72s

    pwd72s forum member

    Even lovely Farrah had a problem making the Mustang II look good.
  7. banzai_bullitt

    banzai_bullitt Junior Member

    I'm really surprised that the '86 wasn't on the list. First year of SEFI, true dual exhaust, 8.8 rear axle. I wasn't impressed with the article... mediocre.
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  8. tjm73

    tjm73 of Omicron Persei 8 S197 Team Member

    That's true. It's not the best article I ever read. And you are correct the '86 Mustang was a major milestone. It may have looked just the '85 but what changed under the skin signaled to coming real muscle car resurgence we still enjoy today. It deserved to be on the list long before the original Elenor. Nothing special about that car AT ALL.
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  9. Pentalab

    Pentalab forum member

    Back then, insurance companies put a max lower limit of 10 lbs per hp. A 3750 lb car ( weighed with a full tank of gas, no driver or pass), couldn't have any more than 375 crank hp. So the car makers either BS'ed the weight, or BS'ed the crank hp...or a bit of both.

    Pre- 1972, it was called..'SAE-gross' . That was crank hp, not including any device operating off the fead belt..nor the crankshaft. IE: a '300' hp engine would actually be considerably less than 300 hp, once the water pump, AC, alternator, oil pump, etc, etc, was subtracted.

    After 1972, it was called...'SAE-NET'. This was crank hp, after all the fead belt driven devices. We are still using SAE-net to this day.
  10. tjm73

    tjm73 of Omicron Persei 8 S197 Team Member

    I read an article a year or so ago that talked about a Chrysler (I think it was them) power rating. They rated the car at X hp at like 4800 rpm. In reality the peak power happened at like 5800 rpm and was substantially higher.

    Just another way to get around the "rules".
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  11. pwd72s

    pwd72s forum member

    An old Geezer having a fun memory here. Laughing my ass off as a Charlie's Angels episode had Farrah in her Mustang II "Cobra" chasing and running down a Porsche 911 over a twisty Canyon road.

    They call it having a willing suspension of disbelief...
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  12. JimC

    JimC Senior Member

    Was that an insurance rule or was it the GM rule? As I recall that was one of the issues for Delorean with Pontiac and bringing the GTO online. So he fudged a lot of information.
  13. Dino Dino Bambino

    Dino Dino Bambino I have a red car

    I have a write up about horsepower here:


    I'm not sure that there was a 10lb per hp limit for insurance purposes though. The '70-'71 Dodge Challenger with a 426 Hemi had a quoted base weight of 3650lb and the engine was rated at 425hp. In reality that engine made 490hp SAE gross so even though that engine was also underrated, it wasn't to keep the car over the 10lb per hp limit.
    The Boss 429 had a quoted curb weight of 3870lb and hit the 1/4 mile trap at 103, which suggests that the engine made ~360hp SAE net. SAE gross might have been anywhere between 450-480.
  14. Pentalab

    Pentalab forum member

    The story I got was that it was an insurance company rule.

    On a side note, the cars in mid 70's were a joke. A guy at work bought a brand new camaro in summer of either 1974..or 1975. 350 ci...and rated at a whopping 160 hp. The deluxe version was rated at 170 hp. The 170 hp version had a slightly higher redline. The car, imo was fugly.
  15. tjm73

    tjm73 of Omicron Persei 8 S197 Team Member

    The mid to late 70's through the very early 80's were dark times for design and performance in the automotive world.
  16. Bullitt2954

    Bullitt2954 Member

    Or the “I think aluminium cylinders and an Iron head would make a GREAT and DURABLE Engine combination!” stick....
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