adj shocks

[Sam Strano]

I have plenty of rears in stock. I have a massive amount of fronts on backorder (I think more than anyone else does). And I'm working on, possibly, expedited shipping when the fronts are built to try and get my customers dampers faster than anyone else.

I am taking backorders, and the rear shocks would ship immediately (and can be installed immediately).

 

[pieperz06]

I have plenty of rears in stock. I have a massive amount of fronts on backorder (I think more than anyone else does). And I'm working on, possibly, expedited shipping when the fronts are built to try and get my customers dampers faster than anyone else.

I am taking backorders, and the rear shocks would ship immediately (and can be installed immediately).

im just so impatient that i had to get the tokio

 

[Chris B.]

no one has any fronts all i could find was like 2 sets of back shocks

they are all out of stock till like January or February

The fronts that I ordered in June are on backorder until mid December. January or February doesn't sound so bad if you are ordering now.

 

[BigEdJr]

Now I am wondering if it's worth it? I don't race or anything. I just want a nice riding car. Maybe I'll go with a non-adjustable....

 

[Random Asshole]

Now I am wondering if it's worth it? I don't race or anything. I just want a nice riding car. Maybe I'll go with a non-adjustable....

Well if you don't do track days or anything, what's the point? I'm growing less and less fond of driving my mustang as a DD with my suspension setup.

 

[irishpwr46]

which ones have the little knobs that you can make protrude into the trunk?

 

[pieperz06]

which ones have the little knobs that you can make protrude into the trunk?

Qa1's??

yah if you are looking for a nice ride dont get new shocks lol

 

[irishpwr46]

ive got roush all around. non adjustable as far as i know. and i could give a shyt less for now

 

[Chris B.]

Now I am wondering if it's worth it? I don't race or anything. I just want a nice riding car. Maybe I'll go with a non-adjustable....

I have to say my car rides a lot better witht he Koni adjsutable shocks in the rear than it did with the stock shocks or the FRPP handling pack shocks. The rear end jumps around a lot less, especially over bumps in turns, and its smoother over bumps and on uneven roads.

 

[BigEdJr]

I have to say my car rides a lot better witht he Koni adjsutable shocks in the rear than it did with the stock shocks or the FRPP handling pack shocks. The rear end jumps around a lot less, especially over bumps in turns, and its smoother over bumps and on uneven roads.

Yeah I think I am going to hold out for the Koni adjustables. I liked the d-spec a lot when I first put them in, I just don't like driving a rattle trap now.

In fact I am kind of bummed that I sold my Wattslink. I thought I was going to sell my car and was tired of all the noise, but now I am keeping it and I think the struts werecausing the noise...dang it.

 

[sqidds]

D-specs are a gimmic at best. They sell based on the lack of understading the public has about how suspension works. Having one adjuster that effects the compression and rebound is a joke, gimmic and just plai crap. The shocks/struts would be a lot better if the only adjustment was rebound.

Just to clarify I am a suspension tuner/designer as well as a Ohlins trained factory technician. I spend a lot of time upgrading, designing and also manufacture my ow line of suspension components.

Every time I tell another suspension guy about how D-specs work and how the buying public is snatching them up like they will change their lives they all laugh their a$$es off.

 

[BigEdJr]

D-specs are a gimmic at best. They sell based on the lack of understading the public has about how suspension works. Having one adjuster that effects the compression and rebound is a joke, gimmic and just plai crap. The shocks/struts would be a lot better if the only adjustment was rebound.

Just to clarify I am a suspension tuner/designer as well as a Ohlins trained factory technician. I spend a lot of time upgrading, designing and also manufacture my ow line of suspension components.

Every time I tell another suspension guy about how D-specs work and how the buying public is snatching them up like they will change their lives they all laugh their a$$es off.

So, are the Koni's any better? If not which type/brand do you recommend for a street only application?

 

[Sam Strano]

I sell both D-spec and Koni.

I changed from D-spec to Koni Sports on the Shelby GT I've been competing in since 2007.

Koni's are rebound adjustable only, which is better. Wanting control over your rebound damping doesn't mean you want to be messing with the compression side. It's like dyno tuning the car, wanting to change timing but HAVING to change the fuel as well. Many don't care to know how shocks work, and just assume that stiffer is stiffer of softer is softer so why does it matter.

I have to say that I did win on D-specs and there are still some cars going quite fast on them. But the are a lot more fickle, left me with no workable adjustment range in the rear where the Koni's allow me much more ability to dial the car in and have it work well, and Koni's are more composed in how they damp the car and it takes a set.

You can do worse then D-specs despite their link single adjustment... you can also do better.

 

[sqidds]

I sell both D-spec and Koni.

I changed from D-spec to Koni Sports on the Shelby GT I've been competing in since 2007.

Koni's are rebound adjustable only, which is better. Wanting control over your rebound damping doesn't mean you want to be messing with the compression side. It's like dyno tuning the car, wanting to change timing but HAVING to change the fuel as well. Many don't care to know how shocks work, and just assume that stiffer is stiffer of softer is softer so why does it matter.

I have to say that I did win on D-specs and there are still some cars going quite fast on them. But the are a lot more fickle, left me with no workable adjustment range in the rear where the Koni's allow me much more ability to dial the car in and have it work well, and Koni's are more composed in how they damp the car and it takes a set.

You can do worse then D-specs despite their link single adjustment... you can also do better.

Unbelievable! There are other people on this planet that understand how shocks work. Halleluiah!

I have been treated like a heretic for telling the “Born Again” D-spec crowd that their shocks are marginal at best. Of course they have no idea how they work, their votes are based on the holes I their wallet. “I have a set, they must be good”. “They are more expensive they must be good”. “They adjust, they must be good”. Oh my head!

I agree you can do worse, but for the same money you can do a lot better.

Can you drop by allfordmustangs.com and fill the faithful in sometime?

You’re my new hero!

 

[Philostang]

I run the Koni shocks, and LOVE them. Also, I got them from Sam.

Splitting rebound from compression is mandatory if you're going adjustable and really want to adjust for a specific goal on a specific track. Doing both at the same time doesn't allow you to dial in the suspension with any degree of precision (I think Sam's analogy of the dyno session is a great way to get this point across).

I've found that I've set the fronts at a happy point (for me), but I tend to change the rear settings for different tracks. This sort of specific adjustment has really shown its merit in dropping lap times. For example, my "Autobahn setting" was a full second slower at Blackhawk than my "Blackhawk setting."

FWIW, I'm new to chassis tuning, so I really like the fact that Koni set up the compression for me and only left me to fiddle with the rebound. If I were doing both (right now), I bet I'd only confuse myself. Rebound alone makes sense to me, its one variable and I can think through clearly what the car is doing and what she might need. At this time next year I may want more control over the suspension, but right now I'm learning a ton, and this is a great starter shock for that.

Best,
-j

 

[Random Asshole]

I've been running eibach non-adj and I'm fairly happy with them. The only issue that I'm having is the "pogo" effect on certain stretches of highway. I-294 is notorious for it. I've had a cobalt ss that did the same exact thing with the stock suspension in the same exact areas, so I know part of it has to do with the road and the other part is the car. Any of you guys able to dial that out with your adjustable shocks? I'm running eibach pro springs as well, btw.

Welcome Phil,

What club or organization do you run with and what are your course times if you don't mind me asking. I'm a local dude that runs the tracks you mentioned.

 

[Sam Strano]

Unbelievable! There are other people on this planet that understand how shocks work. Halleluiah!

I have been treated like a heretic for telling the “Born Again” D-spec crowd that their shocks are marginal at best. Of course they have no idea how they work, their votes are based on the holes I their wallet. “I have a set, they must be good”. “They are more expensive they must be good”. “They adjust, they must be good”. Oh my head!

I agree you can do worse, but for the same money you can do a lot better.

Can you drop by allfordmustangs.com and fill the faithful in sometime?

You’re my new hero!

allfordmustangs.com... I'll have to swing by. Alternatively, let me know if you need a hand.

FWIW, I feel the same way--so many have no clue about shocks, they seem to think they are the same when they are no more the "same" than camshafts are--but cams don't make or break ride, stability, overall handling.

You found the guy who believes good damping is the lynch-pin to making a car work well.

 

[Sam Strano]

I've been running eibach non-adj and I'm fairly happy with them. The only issue that I'm having is the "pogo" effect on certain stretches of highway. I-294 is notorious for it. I've had a cobalt ss that did the same exact thing with the stock suspension in the same exact areas, so I know part of it has to do with the road and the other part is the car. Any of you guys able to dial that out with your adjustable shocks? I'm running eibach pro springs as well, btw.

And the pogo effect is damping that isn't damping the energy quickly enough to make the car settle down. This is a case in point where shocks can be "ok" on a smooth road and go to hell when it gets to not be perfect.

Can you tune the car to better deal with that with adjustable shocks? Hell yes.

 

[SoundGuyDave]

Random Asshole, meet Philostang... Carl, meet John. Carl runs with Midwest Council, and John runs with MVP and Northwoods Shelby. Hopefully, BOTH will be attending a NASA event next season (hint hint, poke poke), and with a little luck, it'll be the same one...

We'll just drive S197's 3-wide around the track and take the whole podium!

 

[pieperz06]

We'll just drive S197's 3-wide around the track and take the whole podium!

one of you will get greedy thinking they can go faster than the other