Anyone know what is going on with Livernois?

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That is very disappointing :(

EDIT: They went to SEMA in Nov???? The website is up, you think they would have a parts liquidation sale going?
 
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oh man!! :( I think from that it's pretty clear what is going on.
 

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Relax.
All the info you need is only a phone call away.
I made that call.

The company going out of business is Livernois Vehicle Development.
The company we all know is Livernois Motorsports.
These companies aren't related.

Google each company, you'll see both are in Michigan but different cities.

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Relax.
All the info you need is only a phone call away.
I made that call.

The company going out of business is Livernois Vehicle Development.
The company we all know is Livernois Motorsports.
These companies aren't related.

Google each company, you'll see both are in Michigan but different cities.

/thread

The logo on the trucks on the auction flyer sure look like they are related. But good news nonetheless.
 

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Wish I lived closer. Looks like some nice equipment and parts. I need one of those 2 post lifts for my new garage addition.
 

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Relax.
All the info you need is only a phone call away.
I made that call.

The company going out of business is Livernois Vehicle Development.
The company we all know is Livernois Motorsports.
These companies aren't related.

Google each company, you'll see both are in Michigan but different cities.

/thread
I'm only working off of hearsay here so take this with a grain of salt.

Livernois Motorsports (LM) is owned by Livernois Vehicle Development (LVD). I think LVD is owned by Dan Millen's Mom/family.

I heard that a few years ago LM lost a couple million dollars in one year because of mismanagement and too much money spent on racing (and was loosing money, just not as much for years). It did not go over real well with those holding the purse strings. This may be the net result of a situation like that playing itself out.

I'm local to Livernois and you hear a lot of scuttlebutt from inside the industry around here. Hard to tell fact from fiction.
 

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I'm only working off of hearsay here so take this with a grain of salt.

Livernois Motorsports (LM) is owned by Livernois Vehicle Development (LVD). I think LVD is owned by Dan Millen's Mom/family.

I heard that a few years ago LM lost a couple million dollars in one year because of mismanagement and too much money spent on racing (and was loosing money, just not as much for years). It did not go over real well with those holding the purse strings. This may be the net result of a situation like that playing itself out.

I'm local to Livernois and you hear a lot of scuttlebutt from inside the industry around here. Hard to tell fact from fiction.

Interesting.
Have to see how this plays out.

The people I spoke to were pretty much minions anyway, IMO.
I first spoke with a lady at the auction company, she didn't know shit.
Then I called Livernois and I spoke with a parts guy. He said it wasn't them and they had no relations with LVD, but like I said...a minion.

Maybe there is more to the story. I do know the LVD website is shut down and I saw that their business address was X'd out on a couple different web pages, whereas, the LM website is up and running.

You would think if mother ship, LVD, is out of biz, everything under her, LM, would be goners, too.
 
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Relax.
All the info you need is only a phone call away.
I made that call.

The company going out of business is Livernois Vehicle Development.
The company we all know is Livernois Motorsports.
These companies aren't related.

Google each company, you'll see both are in Michigan but different cities.

/thread

Damn I like your composure.
 
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Guys,

As stated, Livernois vehicle development is in no way connected to Livernois Motorsports, there is no "mother ship" to us. We definitely appreciate the concern, but we are doing better than ever.

As for anyone posting hearsay, it is just that. Misinformation as most people hear Livernois and don't go past that unfortunately. while I can see there being some confusion because of a similar name and logo it's just coincidence. We have never been busier and plan on doing what we do best, making cars and products that are the envy of the industry.
 
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Why couldn't it be BBR instead of livernois vehicle development?

Thanks for the info Andy. I'll be calling you about some parts for my car once I get old stuff sold.
 

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Guys,

As stated, Livernois vehicle development is in no way connected to Livernois Motorsports, there is no "mother ship" to us. We definitely appreciate the concern, but we are doing better than ever.

As for anyone posting hearsay, it is just that. Misinformation as most people hear Livernois and don't go past that unfortunately. while I can see there being some confusion because of a similar name and logo it's just coincidence. We have never been busier and plan on doing what we do best, making cars and products that are the envy of the industry.

Not sure if you can answer this, but did they manufacture anything for you, and if so, are there any of your products that will be disrupted by this?
 

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Don't look at the light Andy! :)

Mike in engine build was very helpful to me. Glad you guys are going strong.
 

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Guys,

As stated, Livernois vehicle development is in no way connected to Livernois Motorsports, there is no "mother ship" to us. We definitely appreciate the concern, but we are doing better than ever.

As for anyone posting hearsay, it is just that. Misinformation as most people hear Livernois and don't go past that unfortunately. while I can see there being some confusion because of a similar name and logo it's just coincidence. We have never been busier and plan on doing what we do best, making cars and products that are the envy of the industry.

"Livernois Vehicle Development is a WBE and ISO certified business owned by CEO and President Norma Wallis"

http://www.linkedin.com/company/livernois-vehicle-development-llc

"For inspiration, Millen looks to his mother, Norma Wallis, president and CEO of supplier Livernois Vehicle Development. Wallis helped sustain her father's prototype development business and coaches her sons in customer service and product quality."

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120911/AWARDS40/120919909/

Not all hearsay I guess.
 
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Guys,

As stated, Livernois vehicle development is in no way connected to Livernois Motorsports, there is no "mother ship" to us. We definitely appreciate the concern, but we are doing better than ever.

As for anyone posting hearsay, it is just that. Misinformation as most people hear Livernois and don't go past that unfortunately. while I can see there being some confusion because of a similar name and logo it's just coincidence. We have never been busier and plan on doing what we do best, making cars and products that are the envy of the industry.

So, the mother owned Livernois Vehicle Development, and the sons own Livernois Motorsports, and they're not connected in any way? And the same logo and "similar name" for both are just a coincidence? Yet they're both owned by the same family? Maybe you're confused as to what a connection really is.

I get that they may have parted ways at one point, or operate separately, or money may not flow from one to the other. But to say they're not connected in any way, and that the similarities are just a coincidence is, well, kind of BS.
 

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So, the mother owned Livernois Vehicle Development, and the sons own Livernois Motorsports, and they're not connected in any way? And the same logo and "similar name" for both are just a coincidence? Yet they're both owned by the same family? Maybe you're confused as to what a connection really is.

I get that they may have parted ways at one point, or operate separately, or money may not flow from one to the other. But to say they're not connected in any way, and that the similarities are just a coincidence is, well, kind of BS.

exactly, but i hope andy is right of course
 

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