Clearances on short block internals.

05stroker

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Onto ring gap. For a boosted application. Does top ring .022 to .024 and the 2nd ring .012 to .014 and the oil ring .035 to .080 sound correct? I would rather make sure than just taking the word of someone that someone told.
Those are the same top and 2nd ring specs I came up with useing Manleys chart for there rings and pistons. I set mine to the loose end of those #s at .024/.014/.035.
 

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If thats incorrect then now would be a good time to know . That is there spec.
 

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Not trying to stick my nose in someone else's thread but when I called JDM to ask this very same question about the 298 forged stroker rotating group I purchased from them, their engine builder suggested the following ring end gaps for the Total Seal piston rings in my F/I application:
  • Top Ring - .022" (1.5mm Wide Chrome Steel Barrel Face Ring)
  • 2nd Ring - .024" (1.5mm Wide Cast Taper Face Ring)
  • Oil Control Ring - .015" min. (3.0mm Wide 3 Piece Stainless Steel Scraper)
I realize that end gap spec. for the 2nd ring is contrary to what the ring manufacturer recommends.
 
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Those are the same top and 2nd ring specs I came up with useing Manleys chart for there rings and pistons. I set mine to the loose end of those #s at .024/.014/.035.
I went back and looked at my notes and the oil rings were at .020 .

I called Manley today and they stated the same specs that I quoted before . I then called a few builders and they were all very close at .020-.022 on the 1st ring , .022-.024 on the 2nd and .015 -.020 on the oil ring.

Its pretty bad that Manley recommended these specs I quoted for a blown gas engine when this is known to so many builders to be incorrect.
 

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I called Manley today and they stated the same specs that I quoted before. Its pretty bad that Manley recommended these specs I quoted for a blown gas engine when this is known to so many builders to be incorrect.
Well they aren't always correct..

I then called a few builders and they were all very close at .020-.022 on the 1st ring , .022-.024 on the 2nd and .015 -.020 on the oil ring..

Those numbers look familiar.... :thumb2:
 

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Not many people know about gapping the second ring bigger on a modular. Just one of those things. Depending on who you talk to at a piston or ring company you might get the "book answer" or you just might get lucky.
 
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