Corbeau Harness bar

[latch5]

Has anyone used one of these? Corbeau claims they are suitable as an anchor spot for a racing harness. I would probably use it as a guide and secure the harness at the rear seatbelt anchor spot.

 

[Kankakee]

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29610

There ya go.

 

[Kris_H]

I just ordered one for my car...should be here soon. I'll be sure to post up my thoughts and photos!

 

[Gray Ghost GT]

Mine just arrived today. I plan to install it next month with a set of Schroth Profi II ASM FE 4-point ASM (Anti-SubMarining technology) harnesses for the driver and passenger. I'll post some photos when done.

 

[latch5]

Tks Kris - Do you know where you are going to anchor the harness yet?

 

[pcdrj]

I just installed these seats with a 5 point harness. Outboard anchor to factory seat belt position, drilled through the ds tunnel for inboard anchor being careful to avoid parking brake on driver side. If you pull the carpet back in the rear you'll expose a slot area which is raised. I installed a nut and washer inside the slot and bolt, washer, anchor from top side. It sandwiches the sheet metal. I cut the rub away to access the anchor but a small slit would suffice.

 

[Kaldar142]

Nice seats!

So is this harness bar suitable for the track then? I've heard so many things AGAINST harness bars that it makes me not want to run one.

 

[Random Asshole]

Instead of drilling a hole through the tunnel, why couldn't you use the stock seatbelt anchor/bolt hole? The anchor in the middle (directly behind the seat) is for the bottom strap, right? Is there any other way to do that? I'd like to do a setup that doesn't involve drilling holes in the car until it is retired from daily driver duties.

 

[pcdrj]

Instead of drilling a hole through the tunnel, why couldn't you use the stock seatbelt anchor/bolt hole? The anchor in the middle (directly behind the seat) is for the bottom strap, right? Is there any other way to do that? I'd like to do a setup that doesn't involve drilling holes in the car until it is retired from daily driver duties.

The stock seatbelt receiver is attached to the seat brace. it comes out with the seat. Drilling the hole is easy and you can use a grommet to plug it if you remove the anchors.

Yes the anti-submarine belt is attached in the middle. The seat is forward to take the pic but when adjusted to driving position, the anchor lines up under you butt.

 

[pcdrj]

Also, the Corbeau sliders do have an attachment location for the inboard anchor. I spoke to a tech at Corbeau who stated it is used for seat belt anchor BUT all the harness instructions state they should NOT be attached to seat base. Folks on NASA forums confirmed this.

 

[SoundGuyDave]

Having done this myself: 1) drilling a hole for the inboard lap belt is mandtory. You do NOT want that attached to the seat frame. Think: what if the seat mount failed? I do have my anti-sub belt attached to the seat bracket, but even if the seat or seat and bracket were to tear away from the car, the anti-sub would remain functional. 2) When you mount the lap-belt anchors, make sure you sandwich the body sheet metal between a pair of fender washers (3" diameter works well) to distribute any load over a larger area. 3) THINK HARD about how you're going to route your shoulder harnesses. If you mount them to the harness bar, you're putting a bending load across the unsupported span of the bar, which may cause the bar to bend. If you mount them to the floor, and over the bar, you're still applying the same force to the bar, but now you've added 20-30" of belt length, which equates to more stretch. Best bet would be to consult your tech people for the group(s) you run with often, and just follow their recommendations. Personally, I would run right to the bar, but don't take that as any kind of official recommendation!

 

[Black Tooth Grin]

With all the concern for safety, worry about seat mount failure, etc., explain to me why someone would opt for this instead of spending $200 more on a 6 point setup.

 

[pieperz06]

you guys who own one should get some exact measurements and send them to me so i can make one

 

[dkegel]

Nice seats!

So is this harness bar suitable for the track then? I've heard so many things AGAINST harness bars that it makes me not want to run one.

As long as you don't land on your roof. If you land on your roof without a roll bar/cage, you're better off with no harness bar and stock seatbelts, IMO.

Dave

 

[Sleeper_08]

As long as you don't land on your roof. If you land on your roof without a roll bar/cage, you're better off with no harness bar and stock seatbelts, IMO.

Dave

I agree and my understanding is that some organizations won't allow you to run a harness bar without a roll bar/cage.

There is another recent thread where SoundGuyDave provided some excellent comments about the stock versus aftermarket "safety systems".

 

[Gray Ghost GT]

I agree and my understanding is that some organizations won't allow you to run a harness bar without a roll bar/cage.

I haven't come across the restriction yet for HPDE with the 7 clubs that I run with. No problem using a harness bar without a roll bar/cage, but always best to read the rules of the club you're participating with.

 

[DusterRT]

As long as you don't land on your roof. If you land on your roof without a roll bar/cage, you're better off with no harness bar and stock seatbelts, IMO.

Dave

I'm with this guy. I'd only use a harness bar for autocross (low speed, extremely low rollover risk). But hey, it's your neck..

 

[Random Asshole]

The stock seatbelt receiver is attached to the seat brace. it comes out with the seat. Drilling the hole is easy and you can use a grommet to plug it if you remove the anchors.

That makes sense. Sorry, I was thinking of the old fox days where the buckle bolted to the tunnel.

With all the concern for safety, worry about seat mount failure, etc., explain to me why someone would opt for this instead of spending $200 more on a 6 point setup.

My guess: 200 bucks..and the ease of installation/removal compared to a cage (even if it's bolted in)

 

[latch5]

For the shoulder harness I was thinking to run them over the harness bar and attach to the rear seat belt anchor point, I remove the seat on track days. Any drawbacks to this?

 

[pcdrj]

For the shoulder harness I was thinking to run them over the harness bar and attach to the rear seat belt anchor point, I remove the seat on track days. Any drawbacks to this?

I've seen it done that way. Only thing that comes to mind is belt stretch...maybe.