Fox Mustang Help?

[07GrandTouring]

First off, I know this is an s197 forum, I own a 2007 get and that's why Im a member. However, most of you all are very knowledgeable about other mustangs as well. So I have tried finding a thread on here or a forum else where on the subject matter but to no avail. Here it is.

So I have recently came across a fox body and I want to make a drag car, I have my daily and don't want to compromise disability of that so I got a fox for the platform. I'm trying to decide what motor to run in it. Im looking for a low 11's or high 10's, somewhere in that neighborhood (or faster) and I can't seem to decide what route would be better or cheaper. And I know that drag racing and budgets don't mix very well)

I currently have a 1995 460 efi that I thought about putting into it but I haven't seen very many 460 efi swaps that were very good for power or drag builds, the only 460 swaps that I have seen were the older carb'd motor. I am a big block fan but I don't like the build price of them. What I thought of doing would be putting a carb on the motor I have and stroke it to a 5xx cubic inch and do a small build but enough to hold a decent amount of Nitrous.

The second motor I thought of (going chains all die hard ford fans) would be a turbo 5.3 or 6.0. There are plenty among the junk yards here (Southern. Mo) and it seems to be a cheap build for the power. But, its a Chevy motor in a ford...

Next would be a sbc 350 (again, ford fans' worst nightmare). My family has been pretty big into dirt racing and we are able to pick up a sbc 350 crate motor very easily. I would more than likely run nitrous on a mild built motor.

So, I know this is a lot of information and me just talking, but what would you do? And other motor I might have missed (besides the 351 Windsor or a 302... I don't like them... ) ? Im trying to stay on a decent budget but make good power and a good et in the 1/4. Any other setups that you guys would run? Any threads you can direct me to? Thanks in advance.

 

[weather man]

Tons and tons of parts for the SBC. If you can get a good deal, be the route to go.

 

[01yellerCobra]

Why don't you like the 351 or 302?

I've got a 97 GT I'm looking at making a drag car for fun. I'm pretty sure it'll be getting a 460. Hard to beat displacement for going fast in a straight line.

 

[tjm73]

Tons and tons of parts for the SBC. If you can get a good deal, be the route to go.

BLASPHEMER!!!!

Seriously though a simple 408W on nitrous will get that job done without much trouble. Hell a junk yard turbo 351W will get that job done.

My brother runs a 418W in a Ranger and has gone 11.17 with transmission problems and the transbrake didn't work. Oh and it's a real 93 octane pump gas street driven little truck. No nitrous, turbo's, etc...

This year it got a pro-fogger NOS system. We'll see where that takes him.

So if his street ranger can do it, a Mustang can do it with a similar engine.

If you have a 460 and you like big blocks, Kasse P-51 Heads and appropriate intake system. Easy 10's.

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/html/kaase_p-51_-_big_block_ford_wedge_cylinder_heads.html

 

[RED09GT]

My NA 393 windsor went 10.90@126 in my 82. It was the scat stroker crank, 302 pistons, AFR 205's, a Vic Jr intake, kooks headers, and a hydraulic roller cam. Pretty simple combo.

If you are dead set on not using a SBF, use the big block. Or a coyote.

 

[07GrandTouring]

Thanks for all the replies guys, I really appreciate it. I have been leaning toward the 460 just because it is a big block and I truly love big blocks. However, is a 1995 460 efi any good? I've seen the older ones run 10s and whatnot but I've never seen an efi, or even one converted to carb run before. What all would I have to do to get the 460 I have now to put down the power to get me to those times?
Thanks again for the replies, and for those asking why I don't like 302 or 351w, is because Im wanting something different than what everyone is running around with in my area. Everyone e and their brother has a 305 or 351w fox. Its not that I don't like the motor, I just don't like being another 305 or 351w fox, we need diversity. Haha

 

[07GrandTouring]

Alright. I just did some more research and found a super old thread about 460 efi to carb conversion builds. It seams all I need to make an efi 460 into a carb'd 460 would be different heads, an intake, and obviously a carburetor.
Can anyone recommend good heads to use on a half decent budget?
As well as a carb and intake?

I found some but if anyone has any personal preferences Im happy to hear them.

 

[tjm73]

The big block is the way to go IMO. They are stout foundations and will make a lot of power with relatively low stress.

I would think there are a lot of guys that are selling Ford SCJ Aluminum heads at low prices. Topped with an appropriate single plain intake and a custom cam you should be easily at your goals. If close, but not quite where you want to be.....nitrous.

EDIT: If you really want to go budget and see how far you can go with that EFI engine and nitrous a company makes a carb to EFI lower adapter.

 

[Sky Render]

Coyote swap.

 

[RED09GT]

There are plenty of single plane to EFI conversions out there for the BBF as well. That would be how I'd go. I still follow the philosophy that carbs are okay if the car originally came with a carb, otherwise use injection.
For a basic carb system, it is cheaper but once you get into better stuff, the price difference gets narrow between carbs and FI and there are more possibilities with fuel injection. I'd start off with a decent stand alone EFI system and build around it.

 

[01yellerCobra]

Alright. I just did some more research and found a super old thread about 460 efi to carb conversion builds. It seams all I need to make an efi 460 into a carb'd 460 would be different heads, an intake, and obviously a carburetor.
Can anyone recommend good heads to use on a half decent budget?
As well as a carb and intake?

I found some but if anyone has any personal preferences Im happy to hear them.

Is the bolt pattern different on the heads for the carb manifold? The last 460 I played with was a carb engine. There used to be a place that sold decently priced stroker kits for 460's. I think it was something like Performance Automotive Warehouse. They had a drop in 514cid kit I was eyeing.

 

[RED09GT]

Is the bolt pattern different on the heads for the carb manifold? The last 460 I played with was a carb engine. There used to be a place that sold decently priced stroker kits for 460's. I think it was something like Performance Automotive Warehouse. They had a drop in 514cid kit I was eyeing.

I actually forgot what was different about the EFI heads...

The bolt pattern is the same, the problem is that the port locations of the heads do not match up with any of the carb intakes out there.
Price motorsports makes adapter plates to line the ports back up. You can find it under intake adapters.

http://www.pricemotorsport.com/

The EFI heads flow really well on these things so with just a cam, headers, intake and adapter plates, you can make a boatload of N/A horsepower.