Help needed!! (dry nitrous kit)

[stkjock]

Going bigger injectors help with the dry shot?

SMH

 

[AutoXRacer]

Going bigger injectors help with the dry shot?

No...

The problem is, when you tune the car, the PCM (ECU) will never know when you are injecting nitrous...so you will run super rich anytime to go WOT; with or without nitrous.

It will not work well and you may even damage your engine running too rich.

You need a wet system that will activate and add extra fuel when the nitrous is activated and injected. The stock PCM is not able to control nitrous systems and inject more fuel like in a dry system.

 

[07graygt]

I'm sure converting to a wet system wouldn't cost that much the adapter for the fuel rail is cheap. The only expensive part would be the solenoid. But if you are to cheap please video you first run for our entertainment. There is a reason why am won't tune for it.

 

[Kalatrax]

Going bigger injectors help with the dry shot?

Please step away from the 3 valve.

 

[AaronC11]

JMS makes a Dry kit. Looks simple, easily hidden and has some nice features.

 

[AutoXRacer]

JMS makes a Dry kit. Looks simple, easily hidden and has some nice features.

Do you have an example? This is all I could find:

2005-2009 Mustang GT Nitrous Oxide Kits

JMS is a pioneer in nitrous oxide injection technology and offers specialized kits for 2005-2009 Mustang GT and other Ford vehicles. Each of our pre-engineered systems utilize a dry-spray technology that is custom designed for each type of use, and features a simple plug & play installation, although we also offer wet-nitrous kits for more flexibility.


Our dry nitrous kits are a complete solution for easy, safe, and reliable horsepower on any Ford Mustang. Each kit is well-thought out and includes everything you need to add horsepower quickly and discretely. JMS also includes our own in-house manufactured progressive nitrous controller that offers you complete control, and features a built-in window switch that activates the nitrous oxide only when you need or want it.


JMS Plug & Play Dry Nitrous Kits for 2005-2014 Mustangs and Mustang GT's are the first and only complete turn-key systems that include all the required components, and custom tuning options designed for applications ranging from street and strip, to standing mile competitions.

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[AaronC11]

It's the same kit they use on the Coyote. There are videos of it on Youtube. They told me I'd need to upgrade my injectors and I'm assuming a boost a pump or fuel pump. I plan to do a full bolt on setup on E85 and a 100 shot dry with a hidden install.

 

[07graygt]

Ok let's see. You don't want to run a wet kit why? The cost of the kit? But all you have to do is run bigger injectors and fuel pump? Where's the savings and then you will have to run two tunes or be rich all the time?

 

[Swarzkopf]

Bigger injectors and a BAP aren't going to do anything for you unless you use a tune that commands a fat ass AFR at WOT- which means it'll run like dog shit when you're not spraying. If you want to do that, good luck, but I'd imagine you'll tire of that setup pretty quick.

 

[AaronC11]

I'm not sure what all the hate is about over the Dry kit. Of course they tune for it when WOT and NA. It's no different than boost. Just because you're not familiar with this kit does not mean it doesn't work correctly. The owner of JMS went on to start SCT. Watch the install video on youtube. It's pretty self explanatory.

 

[stkjock]

Its not like boost at all. Its a condition that will not always be present at WOT.

 

[AaronC11]

It is like boost. You are either in boost or you are not. When you are not in boost with big injectors and pump you'd be rich without a tune. The bottom line is both setups (boosted or nitrous) will be tuned so there is no problem whether the nitrous is on or off. Driveability won't be affected either way. You guys act like you know how this kit works, lol

 

[pitbull4.6]

Dry kits are b/s.
Whoever talked you in to getting it should be slapped lol.
Do not even try to run it.

 

[pitbull4.6]

Been running nitrous over 15yrs on two mustangs and one ricer. Take my word son, get rid of it. If you want nitrous spend the money to do it right bro. Call nitrous express and talk to them boys if you don't want to take any of the advice on here.
Anyone that trys to convince you of running a dry kit on a s197 really doesn't have a clue about nitrous, and I bet they won't be there to help you with your motor when it goes BOOOOM!!!!

 

[stkjock]

It is like boost. You are either in boost or you are not. When you are not in boost with big injectors and pump you'd be rich without a tune. The bottom line is both setups (boosted or nitrous) will be tuned so there is no problem whether the nitrous is on or off. Driveability won't be affected either way. You guys act like you know how this kit works, lol

Big difference is that when u have FI, when u got WOT, U R ALWAYS seeing boost, a nitrous car you're not spraying every time u go WOT. So yes you needed tuning in either case, but in the nitrous car that WOT tune will be rich when u r not laying the guns out.

 

[AaronC11]

The point that I am making is that when not on nitrous YOU WON'T run rich. The tuning NA will be taken care of to adjust for injectors etc. The nitrous controller only commands the fat A/F ratio when the controller hits the preset conditions of RPM window, is full throttle and plugged in. JMS invented the SCT software everyone tunes with. Maybe they know something ya'll don't? This isn't your standard operating nitrous kit, and I still bet nobody has watched the install, dyno, and track video on youtube. I may be new to this forum, but not new to the game, nor nitrous.

 

[pitbull4.6]

Then bolt on that dry kit and tell us how it works lol. If you don't want to take our word for it then just do it already. Just don't be that guy, who bashes nitrous when your Shit is sitting on the side of the road with a rod out the side of your block bro.
Hope it works out for ya.

 

[Corpo]

JMS makes a Dry kit. Looks simple, easily hidden and has some nice features.

Can you post a link to a 05-10 4.6 3v running a JMS dry kit? Or any dry kit for that matter?

 

[AaronC11]

Can you post a link to a 05-10 4.6 3v running a JMS dry kit? Or any dry kit for that matter?

I don't have a link for an install or anyone running it on a 3v. If you have questions about the kit, try calling JMS. They will explain what you need for your setup and how it will work etc. I'm not aware of any other dry kit for the 3V. There is a video on youtube of it on a v6 stang. I will be using this kit myself, but will be switching to a 15lb bottle.

 

[Kalatrax]

What everyone is trying to explain to you is that even it a tune it will run rich as hell at WOT unless you spray every time you get on it. To my knowledge SCT software can't be adjusted to only add fuel when a nitrous kit is armed.