I've got the power...now what ?

[Redfire_WNL]

Get yourself some new shocks and fatter all around tires and you should be good, my friend has a 600 rwhp 96 Impala and he was just like you at first. He then got some new struts/shocks, control arms(upper/lower) and some fat wide tires and he hooks everytime.

 

[Turbostangs90]

Antisquat is the rear squatting under acceleration. It is the reaction of the torque being applied at launch. Antisquat values of 100% are most commonly used in drag racing....basically 100% is the proper weight transfer needed to where you are using every bit in your favor and nothing is hurting you.

Any of you ever read yellowbullet.com? The have some awesome tech articles.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172353 Here is the suspension one that will help!

 

[BruceH]

Antisquat is the rear squatting under acceleration. It is the reaction of the torque being applied at launch. Antisquat values of 100% are most commonly used in drag racing....basically 100% is the proper weight transfer needed to where you are using every bit in your favor and nothing is hurting you.

Any of you ever read yellowbullet.com? The have some awesome tech articles.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172353 Here is the suspension one that will help!

I just look at the pictures.

 

[ElSpa]

Just took a quick look...there are problems for big power on launch....

I just want the car to accelerate nice on the street ... launching the car on the street is almost crazy since it will just stay there

 

[BruceH]

Just took a quick look...there are problems for big power on launch....

I just want the car to accelerate nice on the street ... launching the car on the street is almost crazy since it will just stay there

It becomes difficult. Power comes on nonlinear and driving in normal traffic requires more attention. My wife just admitted to me yesterday that she put the car sideways trying to get into a traffic gap back when the car was full power. Totally unintentional. This was with a twin screw. I can imagine how the turbo goes from normal to full torque.

 

[Steedman07]

It still amazes me that some people dont understand that their high horsepower car cant hook on the street...Makes me scratch my head everytime..

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

What struts and shocks do you have?

 

[Riptide]

It still amazes me that some people dont understand that their high horsepower car cant hook on the street...Makes me scratch my head everytime..

You can get high horsepower cars to hook on the street. Or so I have read on this forum in the past.

 

[Steedman07]

You can get high horsepower cars to hook on the street. Or so I have read on this forum in the past.

Sure you can..But 90% of guys with alot of power(north of 600 whp) do NOT hook on the street. I see it first hand all the time. Its quite funny actually..

 

[Towelly]

Sure you can..But 90% of guys with alot of power(north of 600 whp) do NOT hook on the street. I see it first hand all the time. Its quite funny actually..

I mistakenly assumed this guy had full suspension already. I think it's because most people don't understand you have to think of your suspension as a system and not as individual parts. So when people say "Just get LCA's and a UCA" I cringe. That may work to calm a symptom like wheel hop, but it won't cure all your ill's. For a system to work on the street you have to set up the entire system correctly. That means using parts that compliment each other. Some parts that you use on the strip will also not be conducive to street traction.

 

[BruceH]

You can get high horsepower cars to hook on the street. Or so I have read on this forum in the past.

There is more to it than just hooking. A little bit of throttle goes along ways and something as simple as a passing manuver requires concentration, not so much on the highway but in city driving and in the rain. It can go wrong pretty fast. I'm probably the only one on this forum who will admit that driving a high hp car requires driving like grandpa in city traffic. You can't squeeze into small gaps and have to leave lots of room. It's about more than just hooking.

 

[Turbostangs90]

Well....some people think you can just build this engine with a power adder making 650++ and call it a day. WRONG! For those of you that say it is impossible to hook on the street, well if you don't take the next step and get the suspension done right....then you won't. It is going to cost you some $$$ and take some time....plus a few headaches along the way. If you get in touch with the right people to send you in the right direction....improvements will happen.

 

[Mach1Marauder]

Well....some people think you can just build this engine with a power adder making 650++ and call it a day. WRONG! For those of you that say it is impossible to hook on the street, well if you don't take the next step and get the suspension done right....then you won't. It is going to cost you some $$$ and take some time....plus a few headaches along the way. If you get in touch with the right people to send you in the right direction....improvements will happen.

On that note: I guess I'll just have to do a step by step build on an up coming project "2.9 Whipple 2011 GT500". It will be just a street project with upper 600 RWHP. If the direction of the preliminary discussion with the owner and his wife continues, they will go that extra mile to make the car hook well on the street with the projected HP.
The project should begin next month as soon as all the parts arrive.

Hopefully it will give everyone a really good example to base some suspension mods on, since it does seem that a lot of people here don't think/realize it's possible on a street driven vehicle.

 

[Riptide]

I'm curious to see what else it takes other than the obligatory control arm swaps and a good tire.

 

[Turbostangs90]

I posted it already....having the instant center, pinion angle, ride height, anti-squat all set up properly. There is a reason companys make single & double adjustable control arms.....so that it can be set up right and get the power to the ground. A good chassis shop can guide people in the right direction.

 

[ElSpa]

Ok, if you didn't see my profile I'm from Europe...you will not find a shop here that can set up the mustang for drag racing...not around 2000 miles anyway....so I must do everything myself...

New updates:

V6 rear springs, Eibach on front.
LCA and adjustable UCA
urethane bushes
pinion angle set
305/45/18 full slick dunlop
3.30 gears

what else would you add ?
with these springs and those tyres my mustang looks like an episode of CARS

 

[gil_t2]

Seems to me that you need to set the car up for road racing, not Drag racing. You should build the car for it's intended use, have a plan and stick to it. Sounds like you just threw parts at it to make HP.

 

[Vapour Trails]

What exactly does "hooking" on the street mean? It's subjective. Everybody hooks up eventually.

I can consistently get in the 1.6x on a well prepared track with ET street radials. That's enough to get a sore neck the next day after 10 runs. All I have is J&M LCAs and D-spec shocks. Pinion angle has never been adjusted.

On a common road surface with street tires, I'd likely struggle to get below 2.0 for 60 feet, with the same suspension. What does this tell you?

The tires, driver and road surface grip (concrete vs. asphalt) are the biggest variables IMO.

I really don't think a high powered car will ever leave "hard" on the street like you would at a track. The start of a drag strip is literally sprayed with glue (VHT Trackbite)

 

[Shane361]

...now defend the power of grayskull. showing my age again....dayum

 

[Mach1Marauder]

What exactly does "hooking" on the street mean? It's subjective. Everybody hooks up eventually.

I can consistently get in the 1.6x on a well prepared track with ET street radials. That's enough to get a sore neck the next day after 10 runs. All I have is J&M LCAs and D-spec shocks. Pinion angle has never been adjusted.

On a common road surface with street tires, I'd likely struggle to get below 2.0 for 60 feet, with the same suspension. What does this tell you?

The tires, driver and road surface grip (concrete vs. asphalt) are the biggest variables IMO.

I really don't think a high powered car will ever leave "hard" on the street like you would at a track. The start of a drag strip is literally sprayed with glue (VHT Trackbite)

Canucks must have weak necks!